Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on their

ubuntu

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
Feb 26, 2014
Messages
472
Likes
278
Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on their radar - The Times of India

NEW DELHI/JAIPUR: Four top Indian Mujahideen terrorists have been arrested by the Delhi Police special cell from Rajasthan.

Indian Mujahideen top commander Waqas was one of those arrested. At least two of them are engineering students from Rajasthan. One of them belongs to Sawaimadhopur, highly placed sources said. Some explosive items were also recovered from their possession.

24-year-old Waqas is a Pakistani who came to India for the first time in September 2010, along with Asadullah Akhtar alias Haddi who was arrested with Yasin Bhatkal.

An expert in making electrical circuits for Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs), Waqas played an active role in the Jama Masjid shootout (September, 2010), Varanasi bomb blast (December, 2010), Mumbai serial blasts (July, 2011), Pune blasts (August, 2012) and Hyderabad twin blasts in February last year.
..................................
 

pkroyal

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 5, 2013
Messages
545
Likes
721
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on their radar - The Times of India

NEW DELHI/JAIPUR: Four top Indian Mujahideen terrorists have been arrested by the Delhi Police special cell from Rajasthan.

Indian Mujahideen top commander Waqas was one of those arrested. At least two of them are engineering students from Rajasthan. One of them belongs to Sawaimadhopur, highly placed sources said. Some explosive items were also recovered from their possession.

24-year-old Waqas is a Pakistani who came to India for the first time in September 2010, along with Asadullah Akhtar alias Haddi who was arrested with Yasin Bhatkal.

An expert in making electrical circuits for Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs), Waqas played an active role in the Jama Masjid shootout (September, 2010), Varanasi bomb blast (December, 2010), Mumbai serial blasts (July, 2011), Pune blasts (August, 2012) and Hyderabad twin blasts in February last year.
..................................
Two from Sodala, one from Pratap Nagar in Jaipur & another one from Jodhpur. Incidentally all three apprehended from Jaipur are studying in local Engineering Colleges.

Time to put the finger ( literally & figuratively) into IM's pie.
 

ubuntu

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
Feb 26, 2014
Messages
472
Likes
278
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

Two from Sodala, one from Pratap Nagar in Jaipur & another one from Jodhpur. Incidentally all three apprehended from Jaipur are studying in local Engineering Colleges.

Time to put the finger ( literally & figuratively) into IM's pie.
Where is Hm shinde ji.
 

JBH22

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 29, 2010
Messages
6,497
Likes
17,878
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

Suppose IM manage to kill Modi. What will be it repercussions?
 

TrueSpirit1

The Nobody
Banned
Joined
Nov 5, 2013
Messages
1,575
Likes
1,024
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

Two from Sodala, one from Pratap Nagar in Jaipur & another one from Jodhpur. Incidentally all three apprehended from Jaipur are studying in local Engineering Colleges.

Time to put the finger ( literally & figuratively) into IM's pie.
Modern technical/professional education + youth from "religion of peace" = explosive combo
Madrasa education + peace religionists = suicide bomber

What kind of education can help them, if at all ?
 

Sakal Gharelu Ustad

Detests Jholawalas
Ambassador
Joined
Apr 28, 2012
Messages
7,114
Likes
7,762
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

Modern technical/professional education + youth from "religion of peace" = explosive combo
Madrasa education + peace religionists = suicide bomber

What kind of education can help them, if at all ?
I would prefer a larger group of 1st over the 2nd. They use the 2nd group as fodder for their pure beliefs. The 1st group cannot do much in a rich society.
 

Pratap

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
Mar 18, 2014
Messages
1,260
Likes
508
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

Modern technical/professional education + youth from "religion of peace" = explosive combo
Madrasa education + peace religionists = suicide bomber

What kind of education can help them, if at all ?
The kind advocated by SR Goel in one of his books.
 

Pratap

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
Mar 18, 2014
Messages
1,260
Likes
508
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

I would prefer a larger group of 1st over the 2nd. They use the 2nd group as fodder for their pure beliefs. The 1st group cannot do much in a rich society.
Boundaries between first and second groups are too porous to give us breathing space. Rich society with large number of such elements is very dangerous place.
 

Sakal Gharelu Ustad

Detests Jholawalas
Ambassador
Joined
Apr 28, 2012
Messages
7,114
Likes
7,762
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

Boundaries between first and second groups are too porous to give us breathing space. Rich society with large number of such elements is very dangerous place.
The 1st group always resorts to something called "Intellectual masturbation" when they run out of supply of dumb people ready to spoil their lives for 72 virgins stashed in heaven. Ofcourse, some of them might blow themselves up occasionally but they are not a big threat in absence of foot soldiers.
 

jalsa

Regular Member
Joined
Nov 27, 2012
Messages
724
Likes
442
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

The 1st group always resorts to something called "Intellectual masturbation" when they run out of supply of dumb people ready to spoil their lives for 72 virgins stashed in heaven. Ofcourse, some of them might blow themselves up occasionally but they are not a big threat in absence of foot soldiers.
Saudi Arabia is rich with Wahabi Ideology but they never carryout anything by themselves, they always use some brainwashed Pakis to do the dirty work. You are somewhat right, without the supply of Madarassa educated people they cannot do much.
 

TrueSpirit1

The Nobody
Banned
Joined
Nov 5, 2013
Messages
1,575
Likes
1,024
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

The 1st group always resorts to something called "Intellectual masturbation" when they run out of supply of dumb people ready to spoil their lives for 72 virgins stashed in heaven. Ofcourse, some of them might blow themselves up occasionally but they are not a big threat in absence of foot soldiers.
Saudi Arabia is rich with Wahabi Ideology but they never carryout anything by themselves, they always use some brainwashed Pakis to do the dirty work. You are somewhat right, without the supply of Madarassa educated people they cannot do much.
Wise words. Great example. But, 9/11 was done by some Saudis & OBL was a Saudi, as well, so @Pratap's contention cannot be ruled out summarily. Expect more Jinnah's in prosperous "qaum".
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Pratap

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
Mar 18, 2014
Messages
1,260
Likes
508
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

This is getting interesting. I am going to download both now.
Do that please.
BTW, Goel's advice was in different book( he was so prolific) and I do not think that his advice can be brushed aside. Everyone, please understand that an average Muslim with his beard or other externals is as good human being as any other Hindu or Sikh. The problem is that the community has still a sort of tribal mentality and it is leaders who direct these towards such acts. The mullahs themselves are deluded and so need re education. Once, community leaders get educated about doctrine that caused so much suffering and bloodshed, it would be a fresh breeze.The question is who would tell them these lines as said by Goel

It is only when we come to Islamic invaders of India that we have voluminous historical materials collected and compiled by hundreds of Muslim chroniclers. These materials have been carefully collated, compared, edited, annotated, and translated by a band of Western and Indian scholars. No one who is familiar with the results of this scholarship and wants to be fair can fail to vouchsafe that the scholars concerned have been, by and large, scrupulous and painstaking. It will be difficult to find significant instances of distortion and misrepresentation in this great endeavour, except when we come to the Stalinist �historians� like Mohammad Habib and Romila Thapar, to name only two from a fraternity which has multiplied fast under Nehruvian Secularism. It is not the fault of modern scholarship if the histories written by medieval Muslim historians are so damaging to the democratic, equalitarian, humanistic, and religious pretensions which Islam puts forth at present. The scholars have not invented any of the stories which sound so monstrous even after plenty of pruning away of what may be honestly held as poetic exaggeration.

Some other scholars have gone further and tried to find out if the monstrous deeds from which most Muslim monarchs, mullahs, and sufis derived such great satisfaction, are sanctioned by the basic tenets of Islam as expounded in the Quran, the Sunnah of the Prophet, and the sayings and doings of the first four pious caliphs. They have confirmed, more or less unanimously, that the enormities are enjoined by the scriptures of Islam in such an unequivocal language as leaves no scope for any misunderstanding whatsoever. The heroes of Islam can take legitimate pride that they have literally and very faithfully followed the teachings of Islam, and the legacy left by the Prophet and the pious caliphs.

A healthy and humanitarian system of education would have placed all these facts before our young men and women coming from the Muslim community, and put to them the following proposition: These are the words and deeds credited to Muslim kings, saints, and theologians by the historians of Islam in medieval India; these words and deeds compare very well with the words and deeds of Islamic kings, saints, and theologians in all other lands swept over by the armies of Islam; these words and deeds also conform quite closely to the tenets of Islam as expounded in the Quran and the Sunnah and the Shariat; we do not want you to evaluate these words and deeds and tenets in terms of any non-Islamic religion or culture; our only appeal to you is to evaluate them in terms of natural human reason, man�s natural moral sense, and elementary principles of human brotherhood without resort to the casuistry marshalled by the mullahs and sufis, or the apologetics propped up by the Aligarh and Stalinist schools of historians; you have in you as much of the rational and the moral in human nature as the young men and women belonging to any other community; we wait for your verdict.

I am quite hopeful that approached in this manner most Muslim young men and women are likely to respond in a positive manner. At least a good beginning would have been made in opening up the minds and hearts of these young people to normal human values, and leading them out of the prison-house of Islam in which most Muslims have lived over the past so many centuries. Muslims in India as elsewhere have been living in a Dark Age ever since they were forced or lured into the fold of Islam, the same way as the Christians in the West had lived during the medieval period presided over by the Catholic Church. Christians in the West experienced an Age of Reason and Renaissance when they processed Christian doctrines and history in terms of rationalism and humanism, and reawakened to some extent to their ancient pagan heritage. There is no reason why the Muslims in India and elsewhere should not experience the same reawakening, once they recover the ancient cultural traditions of their respective countries, and start standing by rationalism and humanism.
 

Pratap

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
Mar 18, 2014
Messages
1,260
Likes
508
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

Wise words. Great example. But, 9/11 was done by some Saudis & OBL was a Saudi, as well, so @Pratap's contention cannot be ruled out summarily. Expect more Jinnah's in prosperous "qaum".
The demand for Pakistan grew among slightly richer Bengali and UP muslims rather than Pashtuns or Baloch who were far removed from agriculture( what to say of prosperity). The most vociferous advocates were all Ashrafs of foreign descent, a class of Muslims prosperous than Indians even now.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

jalsa

Regular Member
Joined
Nov 27, 2012
Messages
724
Likes
442
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

Wise words. Great example. But, 9/11 was done by some Saudis & OBL was a Saudi, as well, so @Pratap's contention cannot be ruled out summarily. Expect more Jinnah's in prosperous "qaum".
9/11 was master-minded by Osama, but the actual people who did the work were some brainwashed pakis, do you think Laden would have personally flown the Aircraft into the WTC? he was like army strategist and without the support of brave,ruthless soldiers even the best strategist cannot do anything.

It is interesting to see what the Saudis do when the Oil-money dries out.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Pratap

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
Mar 18, 2014
Messages
1,260
Likes
508
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

9/11 was master-minded by Osama, but the actual people who did the work were some brainwashed pakis, do you think Laden would have personally flown the Aircraft into the WTC? he was like army strategist and without the support of brave,ruthless soldiers even the best strategist cannot do anything.

It is interesting to see what the Saudis do when the Oil-money dries out.

Mohammad Atta was a Paki? Lockerbie done by Pakis? The attempt to blow Heethrow in 2006 done by Pakis?

BTW, the Pakis who did take part in global terrorist acts were all rich and educated.

Once oil dries, Saudis will launch Jehad using their proxies.
 

Ray

The Chairman
Professional
Joined
Apr 17, 2009
Messages
43,132
Likes
23,835
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

Good that they were nabbed in time!
 

ubuntu

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
Feb 26, 2014
Messages
472
Likes
278
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

The Pakistani who made perfect bombs for IM - The Times of India

Zia-Ur-Rehman alias Waqas, a top commander of Indian Mujahideen (IM) who was arrested on Saturday, is known for making perfect improvised explosive devices (IEDs) with hydrogen peroxide, potassium chloride and ammonium nitrate. He is also the only Pakistani national whom IM has used to execute terror attacks in India.

Waqas, who is learnt to have trained several other IM members in bomb-making, started experimenting with new materials after the Centre imposed restrictions on sale of ammonium nitrate. He then shifted to hydrogen peroxide-based IEDs which were coloured and hidden in soft-drink bottles.

...............................................
 

pkroyal

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 5, 2013
Messages
545
Likes
721
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

Modern technical/professional education + youth from "religion of peace" = explosive combo
Madrasa education + peace religionists = suicide bomber

What kind of education can help them, if at all ?
Hate is a strong emotion & revenge a great motivator, confused minds are more lethal as they are unstable.
It is these unstable minds that are the new recruits of IM.
swift police action in apprehending the culprits is a good deterrent.
Why are these arrested jokers allowed to cover up their faces like women of ill repute ?
Name & shame them & expose their faces so that there is social pressure on their families.
Does a foreign national ( in this case a Paki) deserve the same legal / justice system ?
Foreign agents ( virus / bacteria) attacking your body are eliminated by heavy dose of externally ingested antibiotics etc, for germs within the body ( nation state) your body produces anti bodies, WBC etc
 

Agustya

Regular Member
Joined
Mar 13, 2014
Messages
69
Likes
26
Country flag
Re: Four IM terrorists arrested in Rajasthan; Modi, LS polls were on t

Lets speculate what would happen if they were to be successful in such endeavors and god forbid if something were to happen to modi.
 

Global Defence

New threads

Articles

Top