Forget China, relax, we can't afford another war

jat

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no, nothing can destroy chinese culture.

the ccp already admitted that the cultural revolution was wrong.
It wasn't completely destroyed but a lot of traditions good or bad have been replaced.
 

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Chinese government , Military and Communist Party will have to consider political reforms sometime
in future , slowly and gradually

The present strategy of keeping the people happy with economic growth ALONE will not work
for ever

People need freedom too along with money

NO matter how prosperous you are ; freedom is a basic need

The present system is just too autocratic and the local government officials treat people with contempt

Right now Chinese people are not able to question , complain and criticise .

This will lead to serious frustrations building up over a period of time
 

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There is also another important factor

If Chinese system comes under pressure internally ; then just like Pakistan does
Chinese Govt will " create " an international situation to rally the people behind the govt and
put a lid on dissent .

So the question who will CCP Pick ; India Vietnam or Taiwan
 

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There is also another important factor

If Chinese system comes under pressure internally ; then just like Pakistan does
Chinese Govt will " create " an international situation to rally the people behind the govt and
put a lid on dissent .
Although "rallying people for war" has been many gov't "natural alternative", as many people easily believe it is, that actually has proved only slim to achieve its objective, e.g. Falkland crisis by Argentina gov't. Allow me to say CCP (who I admit is smart, very smart) had already learned & reached conclusion that won't work. My another proof-of-point is: all the wars CCP mounts, are NOT in its hardest times, like you mentioned it need to rally people...

A war with any its neighbor, unless it's too tiny ones such as Philippines and/or Taiwan (and even these could be tiny but sensitive), will be too unpredictable, let alone controllable...
 

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Like many mentioned, CCP has been doing well in delivering economic growth -- nothing about "fast & strongest" in the world actually (CCP knows it) but only deem to support the basic job needs, IMHO.

The first priority actually is to reach a consensus among this 1.3 billions people: they need to know where they are in mankind development and still tens or even hundred years to go. Good thing is quite many comprehend this, but need more...

Unfortunately, although education is critical as many people thought, it can NOT survive by itself: I have witnessed myself so many young girls in western part China (Xian city) with high school diploma simply can NOT find job and have to sell their bodies. It's such a sad story but prove how important that economic growth is.

Nevertheless, education should still be the ultimate solution. Otherwise you won't easily reach that "consensus" I mentioned.

It's just a model to afford education resources to every 1.3b people has to be found. Before that, I tend to say any war is simply absurd... ...
 
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People need freedom too along with money

NO matter how prosperous you are ; freedom is a basic need
we lack political freedoms yes, but that is not a basic need for my survival. what is important to me is my standard of living.

political reforms are coming, but most likely will take more than a decade.

there are hundreds of thousands of protests across china, which are often successful. people can let off steam this way.
 
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1962 Mao went to war partly for political reasons and gains with out solid gains, ie land. It took the pressure off him and united the Chinese people for a while. Served as PR. But I'm not going to say war is an option to take peoples mind off, if it is, i'm pick India.
Other than that, what the CCP has done and will do is try and create jobs, even if its at a lose. Not the best economic model for longterm growth but people have jobs none the less. more people are content this way and too busy to complain. however CCP has created efficiency in the simplest sense that everything is done with out redtape which is ironic since the Soviet Union relied on it. Even though we can see rapid growth, we are also seeing vaste fortunes spent on infrastructure development that can not pay for itself ie the bullet train and beijing olympics.
It would be a question of when. Something needs to happen that would drastically cause the CCP to loose favour if they haven't already, a war? economic slow down?
we lack political freedoms yes, but that is not a basic need for my survival. what is important to me is my standard of living.
Thats what the Germans said in WWII. Thinking unilaterally isn't very socialist now is it?
 

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we lack political freedoms yes, but that is not a basic need for my survival. what is important to me is my standard of living.

political reforms are coming, but most likely will take more than a decade.

there are hundreds of thousands of protests across china, which are often successful. people can let off steam this way.
What is important to the Chinese (bird) is that the bird cage is not important so long as it is made of gold and the food comes easy!

What is so bad in saying 'Polly wants a cracker' when the master gives the signal to say so? The cracker is important and not the master!
 

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What is important to the Chinese (bird) is that the bird cage is not important so long as it is made of gold and the food comes easy!

What is so bad in saying 'Polly wants a cracker' when the master gives the signal to say so? The cracker is important and not the master!
What an interesting metaphor, as if birds (Chinese) needn't labor, and could still get fed. And the master (probably u mean CCP) could afford a "gold cage" for 'birds'. Indeed marvellous, how could CCP have a 'gold' cage? by printing bank notes?

While demeaning Chinese, u meanwhile give CCP a big flatter as it succeeds in keeping birds happy. So kudos to CCP if the KPI for a ruling political party includes "feeding" their people, 1.38billion!! How abt your BJP or CONG. if being put on the same par?
 

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Excuse me, what does China's form of govt have anything to do with cordial, neighbourly relations with the PRC, I don't care how the house is being run, it's their own business.
 

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As for political freedom, we all remember what happened to the Hendersen Brooks report, to Anna Hazare, when he was about to start his fast.
The police didn't do shit to stop the murder of thousands of innocent Sikhs, but Hazare was supposed to be regarded as a threat.
 

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