Forcing foreign language will spread inequality: Mulayam

Discussion in 'Defence & Strategic Issues' started by I-G, Jul 13, 2009.

  1. I-G

    I-G Tihar Jail Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2009
    Messages:
    2,736
    Likes Received:
    53
    Forcing foreign language will spread inequality: Mulayam

    New Delhi (PTI) SP chief Mulayam Singh Yadav, known for his anti-English language views, on Monday said forcing foreign languages on Indian students will spread inequality in the country.

    "I want to warn the government that forcing foreign language on students in the country will spread inequality," he said in the Lok Sabha during Question Hour.

    Mr. Yadav contended that English language was spoken only in seven countries across the world. "Even in Italy it (English) is not spoken. I am not joking. I am serious," he said pointing at UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi.

    He said during one of his visits to Geneva, a query in English by him got him no reply.

    Mr. Yadav said the government should set up better universities rather than have ones from abroad. "We have no shortage of scholars. We should set up our own world class universities," he said.

    HRD Minister Kapil Sibal said the government was in the process of setting up 30 Central universities and 14 world class institutes.

    The Hindu News Update Service

    Ours politicians never leave any chance to pull legs of each other
     
  2.  
  3. peacecracker

    peacecracker Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2009
    Messages:
    292
    Likes Received:
    40
    Location:
    India
    I pity.English can be the Only common language for India.but I agree that for north India's five states Hindi can be the common language.It is Adamantly refuted in South Indian states especially tamilnadu.what Mulaayam talks about English is the same for Southerners who cannot understand Hindi.Moreover anti-hindi agitations are in our history.remember the words of annadurai,DMK leader from tamilnadu:
    Anti-Hindi agitations of Tamil Nadu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  4. Antimony

    Antimony Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Messages:
    487
    Likes Received:
    9
    Mulayam is an idiot (or opportunist or hypocrite or <INSERT INVECTIVE>).

    The inequality exists because people at different socioeconomic levels have at educations differentials at the very least (on top of a hundred other things like wealth or caste or religion or whatever).

    A standardised syllabus would level at least that playing field.

    A low caste girl from a village in Chapra has very little chances of making it big a if a proper education (in English) is made available to her and she can compete with the rish city kids.
     
  5. prateikf

    prateikf Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2009
    Messages:
    200
    Likes Received:
    37
    yes your right. it is our nation's misfortune to have leaders like mulayam and mayawati. just look at the poor economic condition of Uttar Pradesh
     
  6. I-G

    I-G Tihar Jail Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2009
    Messages:
    2,736
    Likes Received:
    53
    English is an international language now and its helpful even for us Indians to communicate with each other and i completely disagree with Mr Mulayum (soft) Singh . we Indians should learn English and we can even keep ours native languages
     
  7. Yusuf

    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2009
    Messages:
    24,269
    Likes Received:
    11,220
    Location:
    BANGalore
    He asked questions in English in Geneva whose local language is French.
    Mulayam is a jerk. He doesnt want computers too.
    He should be told how China is putting in all its efforts to teach its people English so that it can be competitive in an English dominated world.
     
  8. SATISH

    SATISH DFI Technocrat Stars and Ambassadors

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2009
    Messages:
    1,998
    Likes Received:
    216
    Does he know anything about India and the regional cultures? Mulayam is the guy who told he will ban coputers if he comes to power right? If it is the same guy then he must be ignored. Let him go to the moon on the cycle if he wishes too.
     
  9. I-G

    I-G Tihar Jail Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2009
    Messages:
    2,736
    Likes Received:
    53
    This is Lok Sabha, not London: Mulayam tells Jairam Ramesh


    Updated on Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 15:13 IST

    New Delhi: Samajwadi Party leader Mulayam Singh Yadav, known for his opposition to the use of English, Wednesday asked Union Minister Jairam Ramesh to reply to his question in Hindi, saying this was "the Lok Sabha, not London".

    Mulayam Singh had raised a query during question hour for Ramesh, the Minister of State for Environment and Forest, on the "indiscriminate felling of trees in Lucknow and Noida".

    Anticipating a reply in English from the minister, Mulayam Singh said, "You know Hindi. This is Lok Sabha, not London."

    Jairam Ramesh, who looked embarrassed, said he did know Hindi and replied in the language.

    However, Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) leader Maneka Gandhi was not so obliging.

    When she asked a question in English, Mulayam Singh, who was sitting in the front row, requested her to speak in Hindi. But Maneka Gandhi said she would decide which language the question would be asked in and had the freedom to speak in any tongue.

    Earlier on Monday, Mulayam Singh had said forcing foreign languages on Indian students would cause inequality in the country.

    This is Lok Sabha, not London, Mulayam tells Jairam Ramesh
     
  10. prahladh

    prahladh Respected Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Messages:
    864
    Likes Received:
    144
    Location:
    Universal Citizen
    He is right about this thing. In lok Sabha, its better everyone spoke in Hindi (National Language). Most of our Indians should understand Hindi.
     
  11. Flint

    Flint Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2009
    Messages:
    1,583
    Likes Received:
    24
    Somehow people from UP and Delhi think that all Indians ought to speak the "national language".
    ___________

    Mulayam is playing on populist sentiments obviously. If he thinks he can develop UP using only Hindi, best of luck to him.
     
  12. F-14

    F-14 Global Defence Moderator Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Messages:
    1,563
    Likes Received:
    16
    MSY is first class sucker english has served as the Link langauage between the Intellagensia of India for over 200 years and this moron whants to change that english is a langauage that helped us in our fight against the British and today Indians are known for their english speaking skills i think he is historically blind is there a Dr in the house
     
  13. prahladh

    prahladh Respected Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Messages:
    864
    Likes Received:
    144
    Location:
    Universal Citizen
    I was talking about language in Loksahbha and rajya-sabhas only.
     
  14. Flint

    Flint Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2009
    Messages:
    1,583
    Likes Received:
    24
    What matters is substance. The language you speak in hardly matters.

    IMO, Indian children should learn atleast 2 or maybe 3 languages - Hindi, English and Native Language. But English should be compulsory.
     
  15. prahladh

    prahladh Respected Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Messages:
    864
    Likes Received:
    144
    Location:
    Universal Citizen
    I was supporting Hindi in houses because people in India who know Hindi outnumber those who know English. The topics discussed in the House are generally related to India, so I'm preferring Hindi in "Parliament".

    I'm not supporting MSY's view of abolishing English in schools.
     
  16. Flint

    Flint Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2009
    Messages:
    1,583
    Likes Received:
    24
    So what would an MP who cannot speak Hindi do?
     
  17. prahladh

    prahladh Respected Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Messages:
    864
    Likes Received:
    144
    Location:
    Universal Citizen
    Well, Even Sonia is learning/speaking Hindi. But in such special cases they can go ahead with their preferred choice. But if there is a possibility where he/she knows Hindi then why English!
     
  18. thakur_ritesh

    thakur_ritesh Administrator Administrator

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    4,434
    Likes Received:
    1,719
    Location:
    Land of the GODS - "Dev Bhomi".
    mulayam is stuck with age old argument which really does not hold ground but then the audience he is trying to cater to is what is today termed as bharat and i would just not be shocked/surprised if he has struck a cord with his potential voters in his home state.

    take the recent frenzy of erecting statues by mayawati and last night in an opinion poll on ndtv they said some 63% dalits supported her move, some fodder for thought.

    well all such talk sells like a hot cake in a voters market where there is no access to computers, or where a single english word is seen as a language of aliens and it is easy to paint all such things as luxuries for the elites that need to be shunned no matter how progressive they might be and if the crusader can arouse the emotions the better because at stake is a loosing battle for both mulayam and mayawati at the hands of a yuvraj who quite successfully has challenged the mulayam's and the mayawati's in their own court yard, well thats the politics of up for you.

    imagine both these politicians have dreams of becoming the next PMs of this country.

    as far as the argument of hindi v/s english is concerned, well one just needs to reflect at the out sourcing industry india has been able to create and be the market leaders in that based on many capabilities of which having a fluent english language speaking population is one for sure, but alas such a crowd is not a vote bank of mulayam, so why would a certain mulayam really care.

    these are the people who plan our today and tomorrow!
     
  19. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Messages:
    43,118
    Likes Received:
    23,517
    Location:
    Somewhere
    Mulayam folks have studied and are studying in La Martineiere, Lucknow.

    They don't teach French. It is all in English!

    So?
     
  20. Antimony

    Antimony Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Messages:
    487
    Likes Received:
    9
    Reply to rimser9

    He or anyone else for that matter has no right to dictate whether a person can speak in Hindi or English or a vernacular. Is right there in the constitution

    This is what the Constitution says
    The Official Languages Act 1963 removed the contention that English would be discontinued
    So don't bother dictating on who should understand which language. you want to change that, go ahead and appeal to your MP for a change of the constitution and the associated laws and bylaws. Meanwhile, we will see what we can do

    It is unfortunate that a person of Jairam Ramesh's stature allowed himself to be browbeat by a second grade politican. He should have told Mulayam to stuff it. Whatever I think of Maneka Gandhi, I think she was right in putting this idiot in his place.

    I love Hindi myself and speak it fairly well. But forcing it down my throat would be tyranny and I will oppose it
     
  21. Antimony

    Antimony Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Messages:
    487
    Likes Received:
    9
    Silly arguement:(:)(:)((

    Here's another:
    People who do not know Hindi outnumber people who do, so lets abolish Hindi
     

Share This Page