Chinese bosses shoot protesting Zambian miners

[Ray]

well, salary is base on market principle.

if workers think the salary is not fair, they can simply quit. nobody force them to do the job.

If the salary were really not fair,Chinese boss could not hire so many workers.

the fact that Chinese bosses can easily hire enough workers itslef fully proves the other side of the case.

Salary can also be based on exploitation of unemployment and poverty!

In a democracy, one does not quit. There is a mechanism called 'collective bargaining' or what is known as a trade union. Obviously, that is a new phenomenon to the Chinese Communists, even though it is a handy tool of all Communists in a democracy.

Indeed, nobody forces anyone to work. It is necessity that forces one to work.

Also, remember the famous adage - in Rome, do as the Romans do.

Zambia is not Tienanmen Square. In a democracy, it is a fundamental right to protest!

So, get used to it, if you wish to exploit another nation for your own gains.

 

[amoy]

Commie Chinese mouthpiece on Zambia incident >> http://world.globaltimes.cn/africa/2010-10/583149.html

it's irrelevant to 'colonial' or 'imperial' mentality. as Mattster put perfectly it's a 'boss-worker' scenario happening in China too (or the 2 suspects of 'attempted murder' are hardly any boss, but managers hired to run the mine) . No Uncle Tom. It's all about "business" (or exploitation). It's simply human nature to feel more comfortable with "birds of the same color'.

'Collective bargaining' is now happening in China as in Foxconn or Honda cases. After so many years pro-business policies it's high time for CCCP to lean towards 'labour rights', at home and abroad, if with any flavour of 'Socialism'

 

[badguy2000]

So, this was splashed on the Chinese media? Really? And did it say that the Zambians were shot and injured by the Chinese, if indeed they had published, because they were legitimately protesting?

Do give us a link of such a report in a Communist Chinese English newspaper.

So the Chinese think that the Africans are as good as animals and so they require bodyguards to save them from the bush (jungle)? Does that not give a hint that the Chinese have the same imperial mentality as the colonial powers?

BTW, do you have trade unions in China or is it done in the Simon Legree style?

Simon Legree was the slave driver in the book 'Uncle Tom's Cabin'.

The Chinese live in their separate quarter because they don't want to mix with people who they think are inferior (the same way they can shoot them like hunting in the bush) and also to ensure that the Chinese workers are not exposed to the 'subversive' modes of democracy. For, it they get a rub of the same, it would mean many a Tienanmen Square when adequate numbers return home!

In India, we don't think that the Africans are dangerous. That is why there is this large expatriate population in Africa.

I read the news ealier on a CHinese forum than most guys here.

http://www.sbanzu.com/topicdisplay.asp?BoardID=190&Page=4&TopicID=3531660

the forum translated Yahoo news and posted it several days ago ,exactly on Octo 16th.

unluckily, in China, such non-governmental forum usually are not censored by stupid CCP .

 

[pmaitra]

I read the news ealier on a CHinese forum than most guys here.

http://www.sbanzu.com/topicdisplay.asp?BoardID=190&Page=4&TopicID=3531660

the forum translated Yahoo news and posted it several days ago ,exactly on Octo 16th.

unluckily, in China, such non-governmental forum usually are not censored by stupid CCP .

So that was a faux pas, I take it? You inadvertently admitted that there is censorship in China which implies that there is lack of freedom of speech. You would have preferred that this news was rather censored, but you know what, truth is difficult to hide.

 

[badguy2000]

So that was a faux pas, I take it? You inadvertently admitted that there is censorship in China which implies that there is lack of freedom of speech. You would have preferred that this news was rather censored, but you know what, truth is difficult to hide.

cencorship is everywhere in the world,not only in CHina,but also in India and west world.

I personally feel the censorship in Indian forums and west medias such as Rediff,BBC youtube and NYT. Frankly speaking, the censorship there is as strict as CCP's offical throats such as CCTV and Xinhua at least, if they are not more strict,because almost all of my comments there were "censored"!

it is barely hypocritical not to acknowledge that censorship exist in west and India,because just here we also experienced so many "censorship" in this forum,IDF.


the only diffence between you and me is that I am honest and never deny the cencership in China,but you are hypocritical and never acknowledge the censorship in India and west!

 

[pmaitra]

cencorship is everywhere in the world,not only in CHina,but also in India and west world.

I personally feel the censorship in Indian forums and west medias such as Rediff,BBC youtube and NYT. Frankly speaking, the censorship there is as strict as CCP's offical throats such as CCTV and Xinhua at least, if they are not more strict,because almost all of my comments there were "censored"!

it is barely hypocritical not to acknowledge that censorship exist in west and India,because just here we also experienced so many "censorship" in this forum,IDF.


the only diffence between you and me is that I am honest and never deny the cencership in China,but you are hypocritical and never acknowledge the censorship in India and west!

I totally agree. There is censorship in India as well. However, tell me with a true heart: Do you not feel there is way more freedom of speech in India and the West than in China?

 

[badguy2000]

I totally agree. There is censorship in India as well. However, tell me with a true heart: Do you not feel there is way more freedom of speech in India and the West than in China?

I think that my above repost has anwsered you question:

I personally feel the censorship in Indian forums and west medias such as Rediff,BBC youtube and NYT. Frankly speaking, the censorship there is as strict as CCP's offical throats such as CCTV and Xinhua at least, if they are not more strict,because almost all of my comments there were "censored"!

BTW, my suggestion is that you should visit CHinese forums, espeically those Chinese non-governmental forums,and feel which on earth has more censorship , india ,West or China?

 

[SHASH2K2]

BTW, my suggestion is that you should visit CHinese forums, espeically those Chinese non-governmental forums,and feel which on earth has more censorship , india ,West or China?

What do you get in Google when you search for Tienanmen square?

 

[badguy2000]

What do you get in Google when you search for Tienanmen square?

well, it seems that you understanding of "censorship" is just limited to "tiananmen square"...hahah sooo pathenic....


Do you know how many my comments on NTY, BBC,youtube ,and Rediff were censored?

do you know why "$hit" have to replace "S" with "$" here?

Do you know that people in S.Korea have to comment on internet after registering their "real-name"?

and I really want to know why My ID on .bharat-rakshak.com was blocked ?

thanks for those "censorship" in Indian medias and west medias..those censorship make me realize how hypocritical those democracy mongers are and how $hit "hindistani democracy" is !

Before meeting the censorship in Indian medias and west medias, I was really so naive that I believed the propagandas of CNN-style medias and thought that CCP was the evil guy and west medias should be pure angels.

However, after meeting the censorship in bharat-rakshak.com ,rediff and other CNN-style medias, I always feel it as funny as a farce when some warmhearted indian democracy crusaders excitedly hawk to me how superior speech freedom in India is !

 

[SHASH2K2]

well, it seems that you understanding of "censorship" is just limited to "tiananmen square"...hahah sooo pathenic....


Do you know how many my comments on NTY, BBC,youtube ,and Rediff and were censored?

do you know why "$hit" have to replace "S" with "$" here?

Do you know that people in S.Korea have to comment on internet after registering their "real-name"?

and I really want to know why My ID on .bharat-rakshak.com was blocked ?

All I asked is a simple question. I am not at all able understand what you have replied. What exactly do you get when you search for Tienanmen square?

 

[SHASH2K2]

There is difference in censorship by a news group or a forum and censorship imposed by Government.

 

[badguy2000]

There is difference in censorship by a news group or a forum and censorship imposed by Government.

the purposes of two are the same: make dissents shut up!

BTW, I have to praise IDF.

IDF is the most free India forum I have met.
At least,most of my posts and comments here were not censored like other Indian medias I once surfed.

It is almost as free as most CHinese non-governmental forums.

 

[SHASH2K2]

the purposes of two are the same: make dissents shut up!

BTW, I have to praise IDF.

IDF is the most free India forum I have met.
At least,most of my posts and comments here were not censored like other Indian medias I once surfed.

It is almost as free as most CHinese non-governmental forums.

Still you didn't get my point . If someone censors a particular type of Idea in India its their wish and Government cannot stop you from doing it . But in China its government Itself is forcing people to toe a particular line or ideology. This is against freedom of expression.

 

[sandeepdg]

Well, it seems the Chinese managers at this mine freaked out and lost their head !! Nevertheless they should be given stringent punishment if found guilty, though I think the Chinese embassy will try to cover all this form the outside media as much as it can.