A case for secession

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Order Schmorer. If one must have order then why not choose the order they want to live under?

 

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Order Schmorer. If one must have order then why not choose whatever order they want to live under?

Again the market mania. Market only responds to consumers. What about those who don't have money. Do they get no say as how things should run!????
 

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Again the market mania. Market only responds to consumers. What about those who don't have money. Do they get no say as how things should run!????
You clearly don't understand how private security works. A business or a community pays for private security to protect a large area of people and property and anyone who enters that area even if their poor and moreover you didn't watch the whole thing so I don't believe you.
 
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If a section of the population say that they want to separate then thats their choice as long as they don't want to kill or displace the minorities of those that don't want secession then they can right well do as they please.
This is where your own condition stops you. Please read about the pandit massacre perpetraded and the exodus of non-muslims from the valley.

Don't see Kashmir from the same eyes of Palestine; there was never any European or Chinese or African immigration to that land where locals were displaced.

Instead, the state was subjected to waves after waves of invasions by Islamic invaders from Central Asia. These invaders whenever they conquered the valley, forcefully converted the region into Islam. In Kashmiri Hinduism, there is never really any caste system so there was no excuse of conversion by will.

This not only happened with the Hindus but Buddhists and Sikhs of the state as well. Kashmir doesn't have an irreligious agenda as you will find numerous Kashmiris (in exile in their own country) holding very prominent positions in the country.

It was always about establishing a puritanical islamic 'nation' out of a province which was a part of India's civilisation for thousands of years; long before Islam, Christianity or even Judaism existed.


f you think the borders are some kind of god entity to be worshipped then good for you but you can't stop people from renouncing their political association with an entity that they don't want in their area.
Q1- Did you know that Afghanistan once had Hindus and Buddhists as overwhelming majority and were a part of numerous Indian empires?

Q2- Did you know that Kandahar, today the hub is islamist Taliban, was actually Gandhara in Sanskrit way before Islam was even born?

Q3- Did you know that the Bamyan Buddha statues which were blown up by the Taliban were not just carvings on a rock left by an alien race but were our own people?

Doesn't seem real if you see today's bunch of deranged islamist lunatics ravaging that country, isn't it?

Now let that slowly sink in.......

Indian civilisation isn't linked to each other on the lines of political allegiance or material affinity which is the founding basis of all modern European countries. It is based on civilisational kinship.

Our faiths aren't organised religions like Middle Eastern death cults but civilisational fabric and identities with a way of life. I recommend you to read a little from Dr. David Frawley, Francois Gautier and His Holiness Dalai Lama about our civilisation.

Your "real world" is just your opinion of how you want other people to live I say you go out to the world and see it for yourself because I already have and its a depressing shithole filled with second handers and worn out opinions. Unless you can understand concepts like states rights as a defence against federalism and renouncing your beliefs in coercive associations and oriental despotism and so forth your really in no place to question me. Go read a book.
Before you advise others, I recommend you to come visit the state and its displaced people as to what happened to them rather than reading a few Leftist Hinduphobic books and pass a judgement on our state.

Kashmir was, Kashmir is and Kashmir will always remain a part of our civilisation.

Even if we have to prepare for a final war against Islamic nations, we are ready. We have the weapons that can deal with them once and for all, if that is how it has to go.

We have lost over half a dozen "countries" by being tolerant and liberal, to Muslims and European colonisers, the last one being Pakistan and Bangladesh.

No more.
 

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