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Interesting that you post pictures of Russian occupation forces in Crimea in a thread about 'Civil War' in Ukraine. Obviously even you don't believe that the terrorists in the Donbass are not Ukrainian, but Russian.

Why bother, you Russians are living in a fantasy world. Yes, of course, the Ukrainians also shot down half a dozen of their own aircraft in the weeks before. Fantasist.

Don't forget, the Russian Media publicised the presence of Buk's in the hands of the Russians in Donbass and claimed the shootdown of the airliner. Ivor Gurkin, the Russian head of the Donbass miltia, claimed the shootdown with photographic evidence.

Leave the discussion if you cannot handle the truth.

Ukraine wants nbothing to do with Russian, Its wants independance and economic success like Poland and the other EU countries. It wants Freedom, It wants independence. Do you even know what a Nazi is?

Move to Moscow and find out, its screaming National Socialists in the Kremlin

No matter what you say, Ukraine will never give in to the Russian fascists. They won't surrender, eventually they will recover. Poland will be their model, growing from destitution under Russian occupation to relative wealth today.

http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2015/06/17/1409671.html Igor explains that the Russian project has been a collasal failure. Russia's hoped for solution: cripple Ukraine and block its entry to Nato is exactly what Ukraine will NOT do.

Thats not a new sugguestion, if fact I think its the plan. Dump the rubbish into a hole a seal it off. The DNR and LHR are an economic dead end, most of the population are pensioners and a liability. Ukraine can get ahead and modernise without the medievel Russian mindset holding them back.

Ok, I showed you how Russia has no industrial base, Can find me the numbers or quantity of Russia's military exports? I think they are number 2 in the market, how many tanks and aircraft is that per year?

Look here https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/rus/ at least 90% of Russian exports are raw materials. The only manufactured goods in Russia's top 20 exports are 'sawn wood' . Planks. Compare to Germany. Their raw materials exports are a few percent. They manufacture...

That was the soviet union, which has gone. as have the people. Today Russian industry has gone, as has its talent. Its mine and gas station now.

I guess they can make the t50 out of coal :) Russia has very little industry, its mainly mining. With PPP, you may have a point, but to the point that Russian military hardware even in dollar terms is expensive. Russia does make exportable military hardware (with sometimes variable quality)...

Firstly, 5th generation is a bullshit marketing term dreamt up by LM. Second the pakfa/T50 is not stealth anymore than the Eurofighter or Rafale. Its RCS its about the same from the front. What else makes it 5G, I doubt it will have developed. in fact I'm 99% sure that that plane will not be...

LOL. Do you really believe that?