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    Indian Special Forces (archived)

    I believe the mountain side they were on gave way and they all fell down the ravine. If the terrain was such they may have bunched up and been closer to each other
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    This op went South due to the inherent risk in the terrain and weather conditions. Impossible to ever prepare for Murphy. Yet they reacted and took down most of the terorist while in an inferior shooting position while being out of their patrol formation and seperated from their pairs and...
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    Great Post sir, give me sometime to post a reply currently traveling for work and life is hectic. No I don't hate the Patka at all. I just believe that in 2021 we can move beyond this from an SF perspective. Have worn it myself and have spoken to Dozens of Soldiers and officers (SF and not) on...
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    1) Patka is heavy as fuck. Fine for COIN ops so close to base but a bitch to run up and down a mountain with. So no for regular infantry. Can the Patka be used across terrain and combat duty profiles ? 2) already so heavy so any upgrade to add attachments would make it heavier (optics/etc) 3)...
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    Indian Special Forces (archived)

    Just as an observation : the French , Brits, Israelis, Australians - all countries with bullpubs as primary rifle for infantry - all use AR platform smalls arms for SOF
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    Indian Special Forces (archived)

    Because of RR even the Signals chaps can shoot straight now :)
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    Indian Special Forces (archived)

    One thing did happen. We enmassed doubled our SF strenght almost over night ;) oh and tavors
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    Indian Special Forces (archived)

    Sir I have been a member of forums since 1998 BR WAFF ACIG etc. Lol the progress sometimes has been so slow (InfantryI think it's only been 5/10 years. Lol I feel your pain PS. Yes I am old
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    Indian Special Forces (archived)

    This was what I ws goinf to say. There isn't a single SF operator I have met old or new who does not respect the skills of ths SSG
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    Indian Special Forces (archived)

    Both IB and RAW have their own NOC units. Infact NOC instrcutors teach SG operatives how to operate UC in a ones and twos. Field craft. Dhoval is an example. Last year the Pak embassy In Dhaka was broken into and their computers stolen. No SG. Out intel oepratives are also very competent
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    Indian Special Forces (archived)

    Was not SG. A number of enemies of India have been renditioned from Nepal - no military involvement - it's RAW and IB
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    Indian Special Forces (archived)

    Every 2/3 months you pop up and say the same thing. Articulating again. It's not a question of them sitting in their barracks and doing nothing vis-a-vis going out in CASO . Those should not be the only 2 options. Also just as a FYI what JSOC did in COIN in Iraq and Astan is a world of...
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    Indian Special Forces (archived)

    Could be. They have been deployed to Ladhak to take Iglas up to mountain peaks.
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    Indian Special Forces (archived)

    I think by mess ye means they are make the team inefficient with traffic in their ear. This is just a function of limited training wjtb the new kit. Unfortunately it's not plug and play.
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    Indian Special Forces (archived)

    I am sure. Not the thread and that post was false. PS Also things are not much different with this Govt. Between 2016-2018 I had a decent amount of interactions with MOD to know that while the frosting on the cake is different. It still tastes the same
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    Indian Special Forces (archived)

    Sorry this is not true 26/11 happened in 2008. The NSG from internal evaluation immediately began a review and upgrade program which included going back to GSG-9. Today is the result of that. Let's post and restrict ourselves to facts please atleast on this thread. Not propoganda.
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    Yes sorry VKS. It was not just ruling party but Indian Army Generals as well.
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    Indian Special Forces (archived)

    The Reasons are myraid. Essentially they became too good at their job and were able to exploit the Political + Criminal + Terrorist nexus in India and the UPA II govt had an issue with Gen Malik. And despite the oppo Hungama about this nothing has been done to rectify the ills done those men...
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    SG also supported the activities of the TSD
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    What the definition of their Tier Structure?
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