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  1. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    We may see such large projects implemented after this decade. Right now it is around half that and half of them meant to replace older ships.
  2. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    IN has already received proposals from the US for AEGIS on the P-17A. It is a joint Lockheed-Hyundai offer.
  3. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    Be careful with what you say. Or else "their shores" could mean the Red Sea to Alaska. We don't have to match them ship for ship. IN is not competing with PLAN directly. The Chinese have to worry about the littoral states first, followed by the US, Australia and then India. Btw, we have...
  4. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    Can I order a dozen for myself?
  5. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    The Type 45 is a much larger ship than the Horizon and is role specific. The Horizon is multirole, but it is first an AAW and ten other roles. That's not the case with Kolkata class which is supposed to be good in all the roles. You can judge that by the amount of firepower it possesses compared...
  6. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    The Americans had planned bigger ships than these with 500-1000 cruise missiles, but they just decided to modify SSBNs into SSGNs with 150 missiles each.
  7. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    Last I heard it was expected to be operational in 2030. By the time Type 45s undergo refits Perseus could be ready. The Chinese are above us in terms of ships deployed, but we are getting there. We are doing all right for ourselves. In a decade we will be in a much better position because...
  8. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    It would be great if we had them and I believe IAF is looking at both, but I thought we were talking about ships. I am happy to discuss this in a different thread. We currently have plans of starting a JV for Maitri SAM with France MBDA. The missile will be very similar to CAMM. What I was...
  9. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    Type 45 has some extra capabilities that's not present on Kolkata, like the Aster 30 and CAMM. Barak-8 is not made for BMD like Aster-30 and Barak-1 is less capable in its current form compared to CAMM. The future Maitri will be a match. Kolkata class is just a notch below the Type 45, but...
  10. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    It will be very unlikely, but India can work with BAE and MBDA in developing new types of weapons and radars for new gen ships.
  11. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    Incorrect. Max ceiling is 500-700 Km for Block I and 1500 Km for Block II. Incorrect. Geostationary orbit is 36000 Km. Low earth orbit is 300 Km+ for satellites. Sun-synchronous orbit is 600-800 Km. Why would I do that when I already know it exists? A quick look at wiki told me the...
  12. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    I wasn't being specific in the post I made referring to it as a SAM. You can look back. Basically I was saying we will need to manufacture projectiles from 5.56 mm to 125 mm by ourselves. Then you came in and said "125 mm is a tank shell, not a projectile." To which I said, it is all...
  13. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    It's all the same. SAM = Surface to Air Missile All the above I mentioned are SAMs. Just that their uses are different. It's like talking about tank guns and handguns. Both are called guns in the end. All semantics. Why are we still discussing this? We do need them since China owns...
  14. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    Yeah. But I was talking about a mid course BMD. It's just semantics. My intention is to get a mid course BMD for our ships. They are all called ABM, but they are strictly speaking missiles launched from the surface to shoot down airborne targets, hence SAMs. Whether you call them SAMs or...
  15. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    I can't edit my posts because of infractions. To add to my previous reply, we are nowhere in IR seekers but are still seeking parity with RF seekers for small targets through the Astra program. AAD and PAD use RF seekers.
  16. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    Semantics. All ABM systems deployed today are SAMs. In that respect, we shouldn't call the S-400 a SAM either. I am talking about getting the capability on our ships, not whether it is classified as a SAM or not.
  17. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    We failed when we tried making Trishul. And Astra is still under development. We can't wait for them to finish Astra Mk2 development and then start a SAM development, that will take years. We needed Maitri deployed in 2010. Maitri is actually the follow-on program to Trishul which was...
  18. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    Not exactly correct. SM are all missiles that are ship-launched missiles. They don't have to be part of AEGIS. There are only a few missiles under AEGIS. The SM designation predates the AEGIS by a long margin. What you have linked to is just the C3I system for AEGIS. Meaning, the program is...
  19. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    AEGIS is an entire family of missiles. Range is from what you posted up to 2500 Km, maybe more. Welcome to the real world.
  20. p2prada

    Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

    SM-3 Block I has a range of 1500 Km and Block II 2500 Km. Range will further increase with development of new rocket airframes and motors. Even as engagement height increases as newer ICBMs are invented.
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