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Re: Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II What matters is the the outcome... T-34's are cheap and quick to build than the bulky German Tigers ... more over the heavy Tigers were bogged down in the marshy land... the T-34's could come close to the Tigers and go for the kill... What is the use...

Re: Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II There is a saying that "Quantity is Quality of its own".... what matter is if you have achieved your objectives ... The much feared German tanks did not while the simpler smaller Russian T-34 tanks did... Russian T-34 tanks demolished the superior...

The known facts from head to head trails has proved that Arjun Mark II is far better than T-90S and it is a close chapter now... The Soviet era Tanks that includes the Ukrainians and Chinese cheap copy will not able to come up against a Javline or spike... Those Soviet era tanks are 20 years...

The Arjun Mark - II is not something that can be pushed over by specially Soviet / Ukrainian or Chinese Cheap copies like Al Khalid's ... For your information 118 numbers of Arjun's have been ordered very recently... more to come... Another Point to be noted ... The same Pakistanis came...

Yes Thimayya's tactical move was brilliant to put light Tanks at 12,000 ft.

My argument is that India will come up with 1/5 the cost of development what USA or Europeans can... Watch out for Indian THAAD like system, with a capability to intercept ICBM / ballistic missile from 5000 KM's range, the test are due later this year... Watch out of lunching of second...

India has spend around 350 Million US dollar for AKASH SAM development starting 1990 with first test done on 1997... Can USA come up something similar in that budget ??

Indians are building the same with 1/5 of the development cost of USA...

Stop demeaning Indian efforts however small it maybe... else you will be paid back the same way...

Here you go... now come to the point that you are limited space to play with... Do you have something to show to intercept a ballistic missile some 2000 KM away ?? India has :)

So it proves that Poland military - industrial complex is too small... narrowed down to only in the areas of Tanks, APC and small arms that only you can boast off... That what suits Poland..... Where as India's has military - industrial complexes stretched from Submarines, Frigate, Destroyers...

Proud of these old junks ??? Holy Shit...

How many $ you have earned by selling those fancy looking toys ??? else it will end up in exhibitions and museums...

My figure for AKASH SAM seems to be correct if you include the orders from Army & Air Force combined... very close to it... My point it Poland might have made some progress in Tank & APC or in small arms design by borrowing from Germany or else where... I find it amusing when the some forum...

That is too little for so much Polish chest thumping and what not... The order for AKASH SAM is ~ 8 billion dollar, if I am not wrong... it may be more than that...

I would like to know how much successful the Polish military - industrial production is and it arms acceptability in open global market competition ... How much billion $ of arms export from Poland ?? There was much chest thumping going on for sometime of the brilliant polish minds and fantastic...

In 1948 war with Pakistan Indians put Tanks on the Zozila pass...

It would interesting to know how many billions $ Poland earns from arms selling... They are good for show pieces ...

Not to forget the mighty capable US Patton Tanks were lying in their graveyard...

You see nothing !! failed attempt to put Arjun in bad light...