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India's enemies are across the land border, not across sea border. If any SRBM/IRBM are launched from BoB or AS, they can be taken out by land-based BMD. We do not need Aegis BMD. Where as LR/ER-SAM+MF-STAR is already comparable to Aegis SAM.

How dare you disrupt my wet dream? You fascist!

Hahaha yes, we might eventually build 18,000-20,000 Air Defence Cruisers in about 20-30 more years. How do you like this as a wet dream? 1x Otobreda 127/64 LW 6x Oerlikon Millennium 35 (CIWS) 2x8x4=64 Maitri QR-SAM (CIWS) 4x8=32 LR-SAM 4x8=32 AAD 4x8=32 PDV 4x8=32 Nirbhay 4x8=32...

Hope we get this during MLU http://youtu.be/-unZOJEZjC4 Wishful thinking... P-15A should also get 150km Ashwin SAM as an extra layer above the 70km LR-SAM during MLU. :yey: P-15B should get the 250km PDV based SAM as an extra layer above 120km ER-SAM during MLU. :yey:

Yes, we don't have to discuss this anymore. Calling a "tank shell" as a "bullet" is wrong, even if you insist (in spite of your argument that it's just semantics, both are "projectiles" fired from a "gun". :rolleyes:)

Because if we forego nomenclature it becomes confusing in a discussion. If we forego nomenclature and generalize, why not call everything from a .22 air rifle pellet to an ICBM as just "Projectiles"?

Not at all. SAMs target CMs, AShMs & Aircrafts. SM-3 is meant to target ballistic missiles and low earth orbit satellites. S-400 system contains both SAM & ABM missiles. Don't think India would need ship based ABMs as seas/oceans touching India are not so expansive that even SLBMs...

SM-3 is an ABM & ASATM, not a SAM. SAMs used in Aegis ships are SM-2 (RIM-66 with max 167km range or RIM-67 with max 185km range) or SM-6 (RIM-174 with max 240km range)

Ya, typo. Don't know why Astra cannot be made into a similar system instead of pinning hopes on reluctant MBDA for Maitri. Astra MkI>> 40km AAM >> 15km SAM Astra MkII >> 120km AAM >> 50km SAM After all MBDA CAMM evolved from MBDA ASRAAM, and Maitri is supposed to be developed from MBDA MICA...

That's what I said. The VLS cells today are empty. Nothing in them.

Maitri would be the same class as MBDS CAMM?

Cannot be. Avinash Chander said last week that first batches of LR-SAM will arrive in Sept for "Hot Trials".

So what does it carry today? Only empty VLS cells?

Missiles launched from surface ships have the same dimension as the land variant. Only the submarine launched versions have an extra booster and differs in dimension.

Yes, but the question is, once Nirbhay is ready, can it be deployed in Kolkata class? I think it can be.

With the universal VLS launcher it should. Brahmos dia 600mm. Nirbhay dia 520mm.

Only if Finmeccanica is not banned and we successfully get the 127/64 LW.

Hmmm... but things are just not adding up! So what is in the VLS now? Empty for the next 2 yrs? Can't MF-STAR guide Barak-1? There was an article few months ago which said IN does not want point defence SAMs any more, only Fleet defence SAMs. Then again, there is an ongoing RFP for 25...

Huh? Can you substantiate with reference? So your logic is that for the next 2-3 yrs INS Kolkata would sail with empty SAM VLS, till the time LR-SAM is operationally inducted?