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  1. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    https://www.news9live.com/india/why-the-indian-armys-carbine-hunt-is-a-litmus-test-for-a-desi-ak-m4-hybrid-au2305-2048897 Well worth downloading the app and watching (2 episodes so far). Sandeep is amongst the best Indian defence journalists around. happy to see INSAS still living on in some...
  2. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    they found the black paint
  3. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    I’m aware but first the IA has to select a PLR product for this role, THAT is the hurdle not making in India Any indication that they are going to give the contract to PLR? Literally none.
  4. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    Don’t know what makes you say that. These were to replace the almost 100+ year old 9mm carbines which will now clearly be serving another 10,15,20 years?
  5. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    Not really, the 716s aren't going to frontline infantry and it isn't being inducted as a main service rifle. It's going to units in CT/COIN roles. The news about the 203 deal being stuck is music to my ears but at the same time I had the same hope with the KA226 deal being stuck but all these...
  6. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    The 10K order was placed some time ago but these are small fry considering the market. OFB say they can expand production to 40,000/year, imagine the orders they would need to make this viable- probably 300,000+ SPG will order maybe 100, max 300...peanuts. Other CAPFs like CISF, ITBP, SSB...
  7. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    Nice nice nice. CISF should replace all MP5s with the JVPC, I always liked the idea of seeing CISF with JVPC at airports and metros. Clearly JVPC is destined to be a huge success- 10,000s will be inducted across India regardless of the IA’s stupid games. Plenty of 9mm carbines in service with...
  8. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    When they classify an AK or INSAS and an ACH as “advanced equipment “ then you have a problem. They give these officers an AK/INSAS and a few other bits and pieces then declare them “elite”, it takes years of building up expertise and much much more advanced and specialist equipment. Hopefully...
  9. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    They just don’t look equipped or drilled well enough for hostage rescue missions. So much about this is off.
  10. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    Seems all efforts to buy new rifles are doomed to fail. Just do what the British are doing and update what you have. INSAS is a perfectly good base, it is reliable and accurate- perfect for battle rifles. Just add modern furniture and accessories like this and keep it around for another 15-20...
  11. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    JVPC will be in IA service by 2020. But sadly IA stilll looking at a foreign 5.56*45 carbine. Simply don’t understand the rationale.
  12. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    So after months of scratching my head at the small arms mess the picture has emerged 70,000+ foreign rifles under FTP 90,000+ foreign carbines under FTP 180,000 OFB 7.62 NATO rifles (if it passes trails) 550,000 foreign rifles *or* OFB 7.62 NATO rifles 75,000 JVPC 200,000+ foreign carbines...
  13. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    Don’t understand the outcry that excised before, the recoil on the firs protoypes looked as good if not better than any other 7.62*51 rifle, I think many fail to understand how powerful that round is.
  14. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    Will be absurd to select Galil with OFB 7.62 NATO rifle pretty much matching it in terms of performance, they are very similar concepts (AK derived hybrids), why throw billions of USD down the drain for a foreign rifle? India will be laughing stocks operating 2 different rifles in 1 army and...
  15. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    Absolutely! One of the best things to have begun in the internal security arena in recent times and the best part is this is organised and run by the best in the business- the NSG. Hope that more advanced elements are added in the future like hostage rescue, airline hijack, mass shooting etc. I...
  16. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    So no room at all for OFB 7.62*51 rifle in IA?
  17. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    So IA could be operating both a 7.62x51 AND 7.62x39 (if Ghatak wins over Mk.1C)? What absurdity.
  18. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    Well that doesn't make any sense as they have two different calibres.
  19. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    And this isn't a fault of the INSAS! Can we all firstly understand that the INSAS is a result of the IA's requirements, the IA in the 1990s/80s ASKED for a 5.56mm rifle to replace their 7.62 calibre SLRs. This was because the IA had bought into the NATO warfighting doctrine of wounding/maiming...
  20. abingdonboy

    INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

    Sadly is the same story across the board, if it was up to the IA every last nut and bolt would be imported, remember these are the clowns that are still procuring SNOW SHOES from foreign vendors!! Colonial thinking or outright corruption it doesn't matter, such officers need to be purged out of...
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