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  1. abingdonboy

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    What’s the point if they don’t have AIP?
  2. abingdonboy

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    No mention here about those 127mm OTO guns for the P-17A and P-15B classes + if that is the case bro (all ongoing contracts will progress as agreed) then what about the AW-101 deal? 3 examples of these fine machines are sat idle in Palam whilst the PM of India and the NCA fly in 30+ year old...
  3. abingdonboy

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    What the govt isn't openly adimitting (for obvious reasons)is that the IN Scorpenes are ALREADY hardwired for the Black Shark torpedos meaning that it is going to take intensive work in the dockyard to fit a new torpedo system onto these boats not to mention more $$$ and thus the sunk costs for...
  4. abingdonboy

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    So this GOI has played politics with the nation's security and cancelled every defence deal with Finmeccanica, the result? At least 4 on going mega projects of the IN affected in the short term; P-75 (no Black Shark torpedos), P-17A and P-15B (OTO 127MM main guns, incidentally almost every...
  5. abingdonboy

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    UPA sat on P-75(I) for at least 3 years and the NDA have done the same for the past 2 years (under the guise of formulating a better RFP congruent with "Make in India" and the new DPP). When you have leaders like these, who needs enemies?
  6. abingdonboy

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    The SSN class will be in service by 2028 but getting adequate numbers will take an age unless parrell productionl lines are in place. True, let's just hope they go for more. This is doubtful IMO, the RFP will be launched under DPP 2016 this year, 3-4 years for selection and cost negotiations...
  7. abingdonboy

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    Now he keeps saying "I will save money for India" or nonsense along these lines and seems to be haggling over 100 million here or there (negligable amounts in these mega deals) but is unaware that every day he delays is an addtional cost. He is doing what we despise the most from babus- bean...
  8. abingdonboy

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    Country specfic (conventional) missiles are pointless IMO and do not exist in the Indian arsenal. It's interesting that it has been speculated that the P-15B comes with 32 UVLS for Brahmos/Nirbhay SLCM.
  9. abingdonboy

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    He may or may not be but that is irrelevent, the IAF is and crucially so is the PM. MP's comments are all over the place on this subject and he seems utterly clueless to be honest and entirely out of his depth. It has been made clear in the past few days/weeks that the IGA signed by Hollande...
  10. abingdonboy

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    SSKs are not suited for long endurance/deep ocean deployments and thus the P-75I would have very limited utility against China Brahmos or no Brahmos. The SSK's strength is in littoral waters, beyond that the advantedge is fully with SSN/SSGN. For China India needs SSN (with land attack...
  11. abingdonboy

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    SSK with Brahmos would only be useful against Pakistan, for China the IN needs SSGNs with Brahmos firing capabilty.
  12. abingdonboy

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    The 6 follow-on Scorpenes should be pursued at all and this has been strongly hinted by the DM. The P-75(I) seems a bit redundant at this point but it will be good that it is to be given to the private sector either way this is another procurement that seems to be in "go slow mode"...
  13. abingdonboy

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    P-75(I) is becoming more and more irrelevent as time goes by IMO. The best course of action is to buy 6-8 more Scorpenes-2 straight from France with parrell production in existing Scorpene lines with MDL. These would be the modified Scorpenes with AIP that DCNS has offered the IN. This should...
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