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    Aryan Invasion Hypothesis

    The Indo-Aryans,and by extension the Indo-europeans are a essentially linguistic groups,when linguistics refer to their homeland or the dispersal of this groups,they are primarily referring to the homeland and cultural dispersal of this linguistic groups(population group/groups who spoke or...
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    Aryan Invasion Hypothesis

    wonder who has been moderating this thread.What does the multitude of extant ethnicity in the subcontinent have an thing to do with the indo-Aryan debate....whats with this the Aryan race and Dravidian race ?...fair skinned Aryans warring against Dravidians ?..... very funny to say the least.
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    Aryan Invasion Hypothesis

    I'll take this opportunity to remind members that the even the most traditional of non indigenist scholarship today do not equate the Arya's to a particular race or that to any homogeneous mass of migrating population groups(invading or otherwise migrating).Hence debating 19th century invasion...
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    Aryan Invasion Hypothesis

    To set the records straight,the decline or the putative destruction of the IVC, was never a collary to the primary argument of western philologist from the mid 19th century that India at any rate could not have been the original home of the Aryans(as a 'race') the uheirmat,or that Sanskrit was...
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    Aryan Invasion Hypothesis

    To borrow Prof Witzel's expression(referred in a different context)there has been too much horse play with regards to the IVC, Indo-Aryans and the Horse.to begin it was and continuous to be disingenuous to base the entire premise of Indo-Aryan migration(or assert their autochonous nature)on...
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    Aryan Invasion Hypothesis

    I dont want to qualify my remark and appear judgmental,but you and rashidi appear to argue from the same spectrum of the debate,only that both of you are at the extreme & opposite ends of it.For Rashidi the entire historical chronology follows the contours of the white and black race relations...
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    Aryan Invasion Hypothesis

    ^^ What in Zeus name is the above post supposed to mean..............
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    Aryan Invasion Hypothesis

    No doubt in the absence of any evidence of invasion, natural causes must ascribed to the decline of the mature IVC phase.But we cannot conclude the whole population abandoned the sites.the post mature phase in harappa is represented by the cemetery H culture.The cemetery H people,based on their...
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    Aryan Invasion Hypothesis

    However on the flip side of the migration argument,one must ask how different Migration would have been from an out right invasion and displacement of local social structure.When we are talking about the late Bronze age India we are talking about clustered population groups,part of a highly...
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    Aryan Invasion Hypothesis

    In fact they already have.instead of a mass displacement of indigenous population groups by migrating IA,the migration theory suggests that migrating group must have been very small to make a dent on the local gene pool,but materially and culturally superior in terms of social organization and...
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    Aryan Invasion Hypothesis

    Agreed that the out of Indian theory is the most untenable in the Indo-Aryan debate and something which even the Indigenists don't want to postulate.However it must be said that based on genetic studies of major population groups in the Indian subcontinent and the available Archaeological...
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    Aryan Invasion Hypothesis

    As a matter of fact extensive genetic studies in the recent years have more or less concluded that the subcontinent has not witnessed any major gene flow for a long time and certainly not in the middle of the bronze age,which is the period of the Indo-aryan contention... Please read the...
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    Aryan Invasion Hypothesis

    The Aryan Invasion theory postulated for the expansion of Indo-Aryan group of languages through the Indian subcontinent has been more or less abandoned by its proponents, in favor of a more sedate theory of gradual migration of Indo-Aryan speakers....... However we must remember that most of...
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    Aryan Invasion Hypothesis

    Indo-Aryan migration The separation of Indo-Aryans proper from Proto-Indo-Iranians has been dated to roughly 2000 BC–1800 BC. The Nuristani languages probably split in such early times, and are either classified as remote Indo-Aryan dialects, or as an independent branch of Indo-Iranian. It is...
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