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  1. Razor

    Ancestry Of Jats

    "founding fathers" :pound::pound:
  2. Razor

    Ancestry Of Jats

    Maybe give more info (a link, a credible source) for the underlined??
  3. Razor

    Ancestry Of Jats

    And neither did I say AIT/AMT is true. I said it is more probable. First, the creationist thing is a straw man and second, maybe laziness, but without telling us what it is that your theory is, you have nicely shielded your theory from scrutiny. And bringing in my (and everybody else's)...
  4. Razor

    Ancestry Of Jats

    All I m getting is a bunch of angry/impatient retorts with less substance. And since @Mad Indian has already said "No, he can't" (paraphrasing) and asked us to deduce from all the "proof" he has posted (I neither have the time nor the interest- less ROI), I now have to ask the others who swear...
  5. Razor

    Ancestry Of Jats

    Hmm. That's a bit disingenuous, don't you think, when our national motto is "satyameva jayate" ??? Some people find it hard to digest that a sophisticated culture(s) like that of india may have developed in part due to contribution from nomadic peoples.
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    Ancestry Of Jats

    I wonder why you did not mention China. They were an "advanced culture", they were receptive to buddhist ideas. I already told you why I'm not able to make up my mind, because there are no hard and fast rules here. It could go either way (not enough evidence.) And while we are at it, post all...
  7. Razor

    Ancestry Of Jats

    Not necessarily. Did Buddhism spread through invasion? Did xtianity spread through invasion in early days. And where did I ever claim IVC was foreign? Maybe you should try reading the posts before assuming things. "we can concluded that Indians were the forefathers of USA": Now seriously that's...
  8. Razor

    Ancestry Of Jats

    What about the word Iran (Eran)? Several thousand years older than these AIT? How about the greek word ariana. Quite older than these AIT/AMT/OIT theories I presume. Why have you written these bible ki kahaaniyan? :hmm:
  9. Razor

    Ancestry Of Jats

    Since when did C. Asia and Southern Russia become "euro"? Is this the famous straw man ?
  10. Razor

    Ancestry Of Jats

    Islamic invasions have ensured that nearly half the population and the richest, most fertile lands of the Indian sub-continent are lost. One with bigger stick, wins. So you are suggesting that Aleaxander and the macedons, never met Porus, no central asians led by Mr. Babur came here, brits...
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    Ancestry Of Jats

    I m not sure if we actually have conflicting views. Are you saying that there have been no invasions into the Indian sub-continent since 40k years back? Also just a quick question: 132 individuals across 25 diverse groups implies about 5 individuals per group. Is that a large enough sample...
  12. Razor

    Ancestry Of Jats

    I think you have taken the luxury of assuming a few things. I did not say nomads have a better culture did I? Nor that they were culturally superior (whatever that means), nor that nomads came up with vedas. I suggested that they settled in the region, settling down usually means more free time...
  13. Razor

    Ancestry Of Jats

    Dude, I'm not sure what you mean here. Anyway, what I meant by AMT is that a group of nomads in search of greener pastures started moving into NW India sometime during/after IVC and started settling there. Here they might ve written the Rig veda. Then they started moving again. The movement...
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    Ancestry Of Jats

    I am not saying it is wrong. But it is difficult to take it as "rock solid" proven fact when the scientist themselves are calling it a model/hypothesis which is most accepted.
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    Ancestry Of Jats

    When I said I-E langs and Dravidian langs, I meant languages and not any racial connotations that brits used. And yeah I m also not sure how the languges in india were divided up. (@pmaitra might know.) "SO the IVC must have made up of Mixed race Indians of ANI/ASI origin, not much different...
  16. Razor

    Ancestry Of Jats

    Actually I stated earlier that OOA theory is a theory and not proven fact. It could be revised in the future as more finds in the field of archeology are made, and @Peter was replying to that post of mine.
  17. Razor

    Ancestry Of Jats

    Where did you read the linguistic points of the AIT/AMT. I wanted to read that AIT thread here on this forum, but never really got that interested in it. Anyway, some (not all) of the questions which I have with regards to this is AIT/AMT are: why we find the dravidian languages in areas like...
  18. Razor

    Ancestry Of Jats

    Indians have input from differnet parts of India's neighborhood no doubt. AIT/AMT is a theory just like the OIT one. I not sure which one is right, but based on the linguistic data I leaning towards AIT/AMT. As for genetic data, I currently have less knowledge of that domain and therefore I...
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