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This thread is still alive? I thought it would be buried by now. SEF is really like zombie.

Despite how much I hate this SEF drama even I am not completely against the idea (though eff the Gripen). But the problem is the Yankee refusal on TOT & shifting the production line to India. After all getting F16 into IAF was an Indian idea initially. But it should happen with TOT & shifting of...

I think you misunderstood him. He was talking of using LCA with MKI if I am getting his point

Okay here is the breakup, just going by what we have & what is approved already, w/o delving into what we are going to or planning to induct. Current capabilities Su30 MKI -15 squadrons Jaguars - 6 squadrons Mig29 - 3 squadrons Mirage2k - 2 (or 3) squadrons Mig27 UPG - 2 squadrons Mig21 Bison...

And this is why we are going to have one more squadron with just the current procurement plans?

I agree. In fact I have stated that we should have atleast 42 squadrons.

The 42 (or 45) squadrons were thought of in 80's when we possesed no air-defence apart from our planes. Now even 33-34 are enough to defend (but we should have 42 for force projection). As far as SEF is considered it has got only 2 proponents Lockheed Martin Saab IAF & MOD are happy with the...

By 2025, our fighter fleet strength is projected to increase by atleast a squadron, assuming we don't have any new acquisition and just continue with current plan. My own personal thoughts are that 42 is just a number, nothing else. This many squadrons would've been necessary in 80's but not now...

F16 & Gripen are solutions to a problem which doesn't exist. There is no fighter shortfall & none projected in the future. As soon as we get 36 Rafales we order 36 more or make 72 more, depending on situation.

God.... This SEF thingy has got a life of it's own. Each time you think it is finished it rises up again. Let us hope that this drama entertains us in 2022 too.:yo:

@Sancho assuming a SEF ever occurs, which one among these two fighters would be good enough for our Air-force?

Just make sure that Americans don't have the kill switch

Lage raho Tym hoge kamyab.... 1 din......

:facepalm: Bhai please SEF would get it's ass kicked. It is no match for Rafale. Besides there are already plans for further orders of Rafale. It is also in the contract.

Here is one from Aug 2017 saying that the RFI is to be issued next month i.e. Sep 2017. Then there is this from Oct 2017 saying that the process would start that month. Oh so the SEF now moved to MMRCA again?

As I asked is block70 available? Seriously get a reality check. SEF isn't gonna happen. LM would have got the deal if it had agreed to make the plane in India but they blew their chance. Also getting a plane which the Yanks themselves are moving away from is a stupid decision & a waste of...

In that case compare block 70 to mk2 What is present & available should be compared to what is present & available

:pound::pound::pound::pound:Tell me one more

Where is the F16 block70 to compare. Saab is also understanding that Gripen E has no chance & trying to sell Gripen M(or is it for the navy?). Remember my friend we are talking planes which failed to take-off from leh(something LCA regularly did). It is evident with each passing day that LCA is...

Extremely detailed & well-researched article. It should be the fatiha at SEF grave.