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The manual's authors claim that in comparison with the F-4E (though whether they mean the slatted or non-slatted sub-version of the Phantom is not clear), the MiG-23MLD has superior sustained turn performance throughout the entire envelope, excluding the range between 377 and 540kts (700 and...

We are getting more less to an agreement which is good in a conversation. as I told you, the payload of the MiG-23ML in the manual chart is near 2292 kg that is 5050lb, okay? you are speculating what are you speculating? Show me the fuel weight at 24000 lb combat ready F-16C as i did it for...

Pay attention to the fact the manual says fuel density is 0.83 so now i can calculate the 2000 liters weight, the MiG-23ML is carrying 1660kg fuel Add the R-23 and you get 435kg, if you look it says crew weight 120kg, and if you see that you will see 120 kg includes survival kit and parachute...

Relax is not a macho contest you are not F-16 nor me MiG-23ML. Some realities exist, one is MiG-23 has a variable geometry intake with ramps that create several shocks. If Russia would offer better engines to Mig-23 like AL-31 or 117 of course it can regain the superiority it once had over...

This you problem you do not have equivalent altitudes so you use a 9.1km chart versus a 10km chart and you claim F-16 is faster. If you use the 12km chart versus the F-16 12.1 chart you see the F-16 is not as quick. In fact at 28000 lb is slower than the MiG-23 and at 24000 lb is 147 seconds so...

get it, a 24000 lb F-16 will not fly supersonic has not enough fuel, you like it or not the F-15 will with 2 engines spend in 2 minutes what an F-16 in one but F-16 is not F-22 it can not supercruise get it? operational F-16 fly like MiG-23 subsonic most of the time, but MiG-23 has variable...

what cherry picking you are now manipulating the charts like you have always done For starters the dutch pilot mentioned F-16A, got it? it had an engine F100 got it of less thrust. You came first with the wrong manual chart The former Dutch Air Force pilot, Mr. Leon van Maurer. According to...

Primary function: multirole fighter Contractor: Lockheed Martin Corp. Power plant: F-16C/D: one Pratt and Whitney F100-PW-200/220/229 or General Electric F110-GE-100/129 Thrust: F-16C/D, 27,000 pounds Wingspan: 32 feet, 8 inches (9.8 meters) Length: 49 feet, 5 inches (14.8 meters) Height: 16...

did you considered the MiG-23ML is flying 2800 feet higher? so you claim that 71 seconds are steady if they fly higher they will not change, you claim MiG-23ML flies at the same altitude then you are cheating

Do you understand targets are moving? МАкс. дальность пуска, Р-24Р 50 Р-24Т 35 http://www.airwar.ru/weapon/avv/k24.html on a head on dirrection you can fire the R-24R from 50km, but of course the...

here it is funny At 600 km/h and speed of sound of 299m/s or 1078 km/h is Mach 0.55 make your calculations 600/1078=0.55 the 28000 lb aircraft takes 71 seconds from Mach 0.54 to Mach 1.25 remember at 10km speed of sound is 299m/s at 24000 lb aircraft it will take 58 seconds but it is...

The point is an F-16 to clearly accelerate as a 24000lb aircraft and accelerate from 600km to mach 2 it will in reality fly at 28000lb to combat and get home so it is foolish to think a 24000lb F-16 will take of at that weight and go to mach 2 got it? if the MiG-23 is at 2000 liters already in...

Look youare trying to use different standards, comparasions are done on equal conditions okay? You oppose to say in the 1980s F-16 carried AIM-9Ls while Mig-23ML had R-23s and MiG-23MLD R-24. Acceleration wise i showed you from sea level charts of MiG-23 variants versions that the MiG-23ML at...

moot point is to say 2000 liters of fuel allow for more than 2 minutes to accelerate from 0.5 mach to Mach 2, so F-16 flies subsonic at low altitude 25 seconds to 35 seconds is only 3 seconds of R-23 flight time got it? your F-16 is toast, specially since it carried AIM-9L in the pakistan-soviet...

24000 lb does not equal weight of MiG-23ML the Russians are saying 2000 liters in the manual but do not mention weight of fuel. You are saying fuel density is .77 but it can go to .84. Further more it will carry 145 kg of ammunition and aim-120 are at least 85g less weight than R-23s In the...

At subsonic speeds, the magnitude of the acceleration varies slightly in terms of the number of MAXs, not counting the range of low speeds, where the machine reaches greater angles of attack and acceleration sharply slows down. Therefore, the level of acceleration at a specific height can be...

Стартовая масса, кг…………………………………………………...245 AA-7 Apex weight 245 kg 2 missiles are 490kg https://izi.travel/ru/a0e6-aviacionnaya-raketa-r-24r-k-24/ru Масса, кг: Р-23Р: 222 Р-23Т: 215 http://www.airwar.ru/weapon/avv/k23.html R-27 weight 222kg radar version 215kg ir version The AMRAAM...

you can not take a lower altitude, even If you are right it takes you are flying at lower altitude and you have not numbers. F-16 is flying at lower altitudes in the 30000 feet 10km chart the AIM-120 are 200 kg lighter weight thus your mark of saying an F-16 with 2 AIM-120 and 2000 liters what...

You are using the chart as it pleases to your claims If you look at 10 km the speed of sound is lower than at 30000 feet at 30000 it is 1091km/h source https://www.engineersedge.com/physics/speed_of_sound_13241.htm but at 10 km it is 1078km/h So now let us see the results 299.5 x 3600...

Also you are here fantasizing a F-16 to reach 1.7 mach means to fly high so the radar of the MiG-23 will pick it up and in the 1980s engagement of Pakistan versus Soviet MiG-23 meant the MiG-23 could use its IRST and radar with more effectiveness. and there is no 30 seconds advantage, that is...