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Just because people look a little different does not prove that either AIT or AMT ever happened. Sakal is correct, your information on genetics is out of date.

Actually those have a big effect. Look up the difference between Genotypes and Phenotypes.

This is yet another nail in the coffin of this Frankenstein Aryan Invasion monster. unfortunately the monster will not die easily, not even when genetic studies from leading western universities published in accredited International journals prove against AIT. Still some time to go I'm afraid...

Amazing. So these researchers are saying that the ANI ASI populations lived side by side for anything up to 40,000 years without any significant mixing. Then bang, right in the timeframe of our old friend AIT they started mixing, yet the paper also states explicitly that there was no AIT influx...

This just goes to show the arrogance of the indologists. She puts sociology above hard physical evidence. if she bothered to spend one week trying to understand the science behind archeogenetics she will understand that all the AIT/AMT were always built on a house of cards. fortunately hard...

excellent link. thank you.

Sorry but I don't share your blond blue eyed wet dreams. Like you yourself said you have not read the posts in this thread. Please try to educate yourself and then at least you can attempt to defend AIT rationally.

We already have a time machine. It's called DNA analysis, and it has already pretty much debunked the AIT except to a few diehards. The ANI ASI theory has come about due to the greater granularity and sophistication of genetic testing and greater samples. This time machine will no doubt show an...

Thanks. Yes, I will take a look at R1a, and other Indian relevant haplogroups, will take time, but hopefully will get to the bottom of this.

Very good questions, and I can see that you are equally frustrated to get to the bottom of this. In truth, we are not homogenous, as we all have varying percentages of these ancient markers. But the fact that these ancient markers are spread throughout the country indicates that we have all been...

Actually, please read my post carefully and follow the link. The common ancestry with central Asia was 25k years ago, not 500-1000 AD.

Hi Poseidon, A couple of things: I followed the link you gave, and it gave the following quote which hints against any 'Aryan' migration at all: Also regarding Haplogroup R2, there is the following wiki link: Haplogroup R2 (Y-DNA) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Key points are...

That's easy - the white dudes on horseback brought them over about 1700 BC. I am sure that plenty of linguistic and archealogical evidence can be found to support this - as can some genetic evidence by highly committed scientists. ;)

Really? but in that case we all have tribal, dravidian and 'the rest' blood. Look at the map and read my post again. Per the sources quoted (which may be wrong), Haplogroup M - i.e. the first wave out of Africa into India - is common throughout India - i.e. people throughout India share a...

Hi LB, MI, KS, Thanks for the debate (heated or not) and the links. I am still trying to get my head around this whole genetic thing about what it is to be an Indian (northie or southie) and to what extent the AIT theory has any relevance if at all. However, it seems to me that we all...

Thanks for the link GK. Execellent documentary, and I went through all of it and in fact rewound a number of time - shows what a sad person I am. The documentary is similar to Alice Roberts 'Incredible Human Journey' but I think that this Spencer Wells' version is better as it uses genetics to...

Hi MI, I followed the link and it is interesting that the authors themselves recognize that there are are plenty of studys that contradict their findings, although they argue they have a greater and tighter sample size. If you remember that all human beings share 99.98% similar genes, then these...

I completely agree, but it is highly convincing and, for Indians, extremely dangerous dangerous claptrap. For me the only thing that would convince me of AIT is irrefutable genetic evidence, as all the language, literature (i.e. quotes from the Vedas), and pottery arguments are all quite...

Sorry I extrapolated. But I would be interested what south Indians feel about the topic.

Sorry to join this comment link late. I am a Guju. The first looks like my wife (or any city girl for that matter), The second one looks like any of my aunts from the gamras (villages). In London, we have lots of TN people from SL. Lots of these girls look like the first one. I am just...