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Well you have to appreciate your opponent clarity of thought. its ummah or chumah :P

I think Pak is quite innovative with their budget. They know matching India dollar for dollar is impossible so they make good with whatever they have. Pakistani have the initiative and are able to take decision far quicker than India notorious procurement process.

I hope not, better get new turret for kestrel platform. Like what the Russians did with bumerang. But yes I agree with you the BMP 3 nightmare seems to be materialising.

Tbh with the quantity that we need and given the unit cost, such platform are too costly for us. If you see Germans they operate hundreds of them while our requirement comes into thousand. So don't expect this to come with IA.

I have a bad feeling about this picture. For a long time they are trying to sell us the BMP 3, while it is a good replacement to BMP2 and can even act as light tank, it is not something that we can use after next 10 years and will kill local products.

Are bhai. If you scroll this forum it's full of such baseless news. Public ko chut*ya Bana Raha Hain.

Oh man you took it to heart. My comment was based on performance of units in Iraq and Donbass. I guess crew preparedness has also to be factored 🤣

It proves that their BTR 4 were tin cans. Seriously doubt Ukrainians products now.

I know MRAP are better suited for IEDs but if you compare with western APC correct me if I'm wrong but it seems their APCs have performed better in IED environment better crew survivability.

Whatever the protection at the end of the day because of IEDs like in Chechnya there are great chances that troops might prefer to ride on that like BTR-70.

@Akim with the BTR-4 its difficult for troops to ride top of this APC?

I precisely mentioned updated version of BTR-80 afaik its name BTR-82A. What I really want to know is what is better in this BTR-4 over existing Russian BTR.

Any pictures of the troop compartment I see it a continuation of Russia BTR concept and if you ask me the latest version of BTR-80 appears to be way better.

How is its protection against RPG-7 shots and 12.7mm HMG?

Expensive if you ask me. What about the use of ERA of HIFV its pretty hazardous given that such vehicle are expected to move in with infantry. Do you have any idea how the Knife era compares say to Kontact 5 on Indian T-90

An IFV with an 7-8 team squad makes sense five guys is too low if you ask me. For Urban warfare that is a situation like Battle of Grozny is it better to arm the IFV with 30mm or 12.7mm gun? Also any indication of the upgrade price Ukraine package.

I really like the BTR-T and BMPT-64 concepts could be useful to convert our old T-55.I prefer the BMPT-64. Can anyone shed light on the status of the Tarmour upgrade?

These are used by Special Forces who are usually themselves on ambush mission so IED risk is minimal. There is a documentary on you tube British SAS Pathfinders on hunt of Talibans using this type of vehicle gives them more flexibility to carry ammo,food etc In fact COIN units like Rashtriya...

I just love that beast its a solution for all the T-55 in storage but then is there a scenario where we expect the Indian Army to fight in Urban setting

COIN units and paramilitary units should get MRAP vehicles to counter the IED threat but whether Army should get more wheeled or tracked vehicles I don't know for sure what they should choose