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  1. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    Common sense dictates that they should cancel p75i. Just order 3 more scorpion for a total of 12 . And then go directly for indigenous ssk derived from scorpion for another 12. Focus on SSN in future. But since when indian defence procurement are based on common sense.
  2. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    Cost is the key factor. A taigei type with tot will cost us upwards of 1 billion USD per boat. Better go for more SSN as an SSN is multiple times more capable to even most advanced ssk. If we have to dominate entire Indian Ocean than that will be done with SSN not ssk.
  3. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    Japanese are trying to mimic nuclear submarine endurance with their taigei class. We don't need that since we are building a separate fleet of SSN . Our diesel submarines will not go far beyond our shores. So we can do with something cheaper and more reasonable.
  4. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    Yes germany have aip by Siemens. And Korean subs are evolution of German subs. Better go with the original.
  5. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    Changes are clearly directed at getting Germans back in game.
  6. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    None of them stop ballistic missiles. They are only good against slow aircrafts. S400 is decent rest of all is crappier than garbage .
  7. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    China has no missile defence as of now and our missiles will keep improving in range . K6 will be proper ICBM with declared range of 6000km while actual range of 8k-10k km. Nuke subs aren't detected that easily they can sail at 400-600 m depth . Much deeper compared to conventional subs.
  8. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    That's not how these things works practically. To employ Magnetic anamoly detector you need to have rough idea about submarines location. That's the key with nuke subs they can be anywhere in worlds open oceans from Atlantic to indian anywhere. No one even usa has enough resources to deploy to...
  9. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    Even 1 SSBN is difficult to find once it slips underwater. It is not for nothing that all nuclear powers posses SSBN . These debates have been settled alredy.
  10. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    Static means they will be found out by enemy eventually and will be targeted in first strike . Second strike means enemy must remain clueless about where are the nukes. Hence fast and silent ships with endless endurance aka ssbn.
  11. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    Although theorically we can already build SSN around 83 MW reactor that arihant uses. France still operates rubis class SSN which are just 2600 ton and have a puny 48 mw reactor. So 83 MW reactor can provide us with a decent 3000 ton SSN. But I we are going for 6000 ton SSN hence need...
  12. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    If we are able to build a 190 MW reactor for submarine then that will be key for our next phase of SSBN , SSN and nuclear carrier.
  13. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    Japanese frigate are much smaller than p17A which are basically destroyer size frigates at 6600 tons. Have much more range and endurance compared to japanese ships. Their cost also reflects upgrade of docks which is going on simultaneously. As for soryu class submarine they are a class apart...
  14. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    To reach chinese or American speed we need to first settle on a design for both ssk and SSN. For SSN it will be our own Design only issue is cost due to nuclear propulsion. For SSK plan was to settle on an indigenous design after p75 and p75i projects . But p75i is already delayed . Once...
  15. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    The original plan was to establish two parallel lines of production with project 75 and 75i. By building 6 subs in each project with tot. Then build 6 indegenious ssk by using tech obtained in 75 and 75i. Thus having 18ssk and 6 ssn extra. And then build more indegious ssk as required in...
  16. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    Bloody congressi. They don't want adani , they don't want ambani either. Who the hell will create private defence industry ?? Pappus jija??
  17. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    An absurd post . Given that we have build indegenios SSBN and are designing indegenios SSN.
  18. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    The goal of 75i is to infuse foreign tech into Indian shipyards. Since mdl has already gotten Scorpion tech the 75i will go to a different yard for modernization. Now mdl will either get more Scorpion to build ( not likely since navy is cold to french offer) or will start building indegenios...
  19. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    I understand that. My point is same goes for adani. If adani and it's foreign partner wins then same thing will happen.
  20. IndianHawk

    Project-75I class SSK Submarines

    Expertise will be offered by foreign partner of adani. That is the whole project. We are seeking foreign tech to build in India. And if they won't fullfil criteria they will be disqualified. It's that simple. You want them to not even file for tender . Why? They have submitted bit before...
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