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  1. Flying Dagger

    American and European Air to Air Missiles.

    Aware of this development already. Thanks Regarding Meteor , 60-70 km of NEZ gives it a fair chances against any fighter jet. France isn't in any active war with any major air power like China or Pakistan. They don't really need a huge stocks of such expensive missiles. Though countries...
  2. Flying Dagger

    American and European Air to Air Missiles.

    That's what I asked ... The relation in between finding a stealth jet and a missile (MICA). There is none.. In order to shoot an aircraft once identified offcourse it's directly related. VLO as adversary means by the time it is identified it will use its missile against other aircraft. It...
  3. Flying Dagger

    American and European Air to Air Missiles.

    😂 Bhai I know nothing ... Ok don't quote me anymore.
  4. Flying Dagger

    American and European Air to Air Missiles.

    Don't share it for my info.. I am aware of everything you are saying ... LOAL is an old tech ? What do you even mean when you throw such things USAF didn't rejected ramjet it's just that it's more economical to keep dual pulse motor. Astra NEZ will be much lesser. It's max range is 100+...
  5. Flying Dagger

    American and European Air to Air Missiles.

    If 120 D can destroy a Tejas like target from 100 km with ease why do we need meteor ? Main point is NEZ where the chances of getting hit is maximum. For a 120 D it may not be more than 25-30 km at best. Meteor set to get AESA prototype fire in 2023 that you do nt count... But MICA NG still...
  6. Flying Dagger

    American and European Air to Air Missiles.

    That was a satire from my side... Bro You seems to be new.. you can read previous posts where these things are discussed in details in the forum.
  7. Flying Dagger

    American and European Air to Air Missiles.

    Great then USA will be able to take down Flankers at even bigger range with their aesa radar track em and take them down. We should literally put them in reserve . :)
  8. Flying Dagger

    American and European Air to Air Missiles.

    Can't read your mind... if you aren't talking about LOAL then what it is that mica is good coz of rafale... If you are talking abt surface to air missile or mica vertical launch capability that had nothing to do with the discussion. Derby python can do the same and so does all other missiles...
  9. Flying Dagger

    American and European Air to Air Missiles.

    What you are talking abt is LOAL capability that's available for python etc too. MICA NG is basic upgrade and dual pulse motor to increase range that's it. Though it won't increase NEZ much. The real advantage of MICA is it's Thrust vectoring capability which make sure it can engage CCM and...
  10. Flying Dagger

    American and European Air to Air Missiles.

    Aim 9X is IR missile for CCM where Python 5 is equally good which we have inducted now. MICA is good due to Rafale ? It's good whether on Mirage or Rafale or Sukhoi and best piece available the only drawback is range. It has both IR and RF version that's added advantage. For CCM Python...
  11. Flying Dagger

    American and European Air to Air Missiles.

    First the missile provided to PAF are older ones not the latest. PAF fired them up at Max range of the missiles so it was easy for Sukhoi to dodge them. The Derby ER IAF is counting on to replace it's Russian missiles is basically American Amraam in Israel hands. Rest lots of factors play...
  12. Flying Dagger

    American and European Air to Air Missiles.

    There is Derby ER similar to AMRAAM Astra isn't in the league of AMRAAM (several version exist.) either nor Chinese pl 12 /15 better than AMRAAM on any account. Then we have several extended range version of R-77 MICA is best missile for both role though it's range is less and price is...
  13. Flying Dagger

    American and European Air to Air Missiles.

    They won't do anything like MBDA.... Highly unlikely and the use of their missiles comes with several restrictions. Israel have already provided us with Derby ER already integrated with Tejas and possibly Sukhoi . Hope Mig 29 gets them too. So there is no need for American missile . Rest we...
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