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US lobbyists on the forum should focus their efforts on getting the F35 offered to India instead of badmouthing Rafale. India won't buy F16V, F18 or F15EX. Sooner the US understands it, the better.

These IAF numbers won't be inducted for another 8 years. They will have another 80 JF17 by then.

Didn't know about the US Congress thing. Will take your word for it. The point I am making is regardless of whether the F35 is directly in the path of Rafale or not, it will never have to "catch up" to it since rafale will be detected before it has crossed f35 and f35 can always take a shorter...

First of all, why is afterburner needed to intercept the Rafale? It will be detected from a longer range through ground radars and awacs and can be intercepted in time without AF Secondly how do you know that using afterburner will blister f35s tail paint?

Probably. But its not clear whether the IRST is old one, from first gen OSF or new one, meant for OSF NG.

In fact even this range of OSF will go down significantly in bad weather. Issue with IR channel was not of obsolescence but only money. Which is why IAF asked for IR channel on their Rafales.

Then that would be the first gen OSF, which had IRST, not the current OSF IT which has only TV channel. IRST is supposed to be reintroduced with the next iteration Rafale F4. However it is not clear which IRST will the IAF planes get, the older one with the original OSF or the new one meant for...

So Rafale would have IRST specifically for India. Matches my claim many days back where I said that current Rafale doesn't have IRST anymore, @vampyrbladez. Looks like IAF will get the planned IRST in OSF NG before even french airforce.

That is a future secondary option if LCA Mk2 or AMCA fails. This will never be the primary option since IAF is decidedly looking at medium fighters considering the manpower, maintenance and operational cost requirements of heavy fighters. As for TOT & indigenous manufacturing, we will get it...

You are the one who is not understanding. That is why I have asked you to check into a mental institution. Saurav's Jha article clearly says that the target thrust of 81 KN is not met. This is the quote Rest of your post is again theoretical BS as usual. You just write such BS to deflect the...

I have given you multiple sources which prove that the information on DRDO's website is incorrect. I am posting links again here because I genuinely doubt that with your limited brainpower, you will be able to find them: 1...

Where did I say Kaveri is a failure? Why are you a running away from the discussion? I am asking you to prove that Kaveri achieved 81 KN of thrust. Instead of proving that, you are talking about other things. You moronic replies already show that my claim about Kaveri's achieved thrust was...

Are you really that stupid? Are you saying that article is of UPA's government time so it is not reliable? So all defence articles published between 2004-14 are wrong? This is the new level of stupidity I am seeing here. Anyways, I will still humor you, since I am understanding now that you are...

What does the above BS has got to do anything with what I asked. It is very clearly written everywhere that the target wet thrust of 81 KN was never achieved. You claimed that Kaveri has achieved 81 KN thrust and a weight of 1000 kg. I am simply asking you to prove either of the above...

I have already told you that those are the target specifications. The fact is Kaveri never achieved 81 KN thrust and was shut down after achieving 72 KN thrust in 2012. This has been confirmed by multiple media reports, for example, this one...

No where that article mentions that the Kaveri weight is reduced to 1000 kg or the thrust has been increased from 72 kn. Also the source of that article is a facebook page which is closed now. I am still waiting for a source which says Kaveri's weight is reduced to 1000 kg

If you are so sure about it then share the source of updated thrust figures along with a source of french certification instead of quoting old data from DRDO's website. We you would had already shared if you had any source. The fact is no french certification and no uprating of engine thrust...

Those are just the target specifications. Everyone knows that they were never achieved. Kaveri engine program was shut down after achieving 72kn of thrust and k9 and k10 projects were started. This is common knowledge. If kaveri had achieved the required specifications, f404 would never have...

Any source for the claim that Kaveri's weight is 1000 kg?

This is speculation based upon one Ajai Shukla's report. MOD did not comment on it. If you can prove it, please try. HAL never meets its production timelines. It has nothing to do with the orders they are given. Hundreds of Dhruvs have been ordered, why wasn't HAL able to meet its production...