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Yeah but it'd still be better than the current configuration.

Yes,definitely.

There were no alternatives available at that time and Arjun was nowhere in sight.

Nah, this is the only instance I'll have to side with the Indian generals; Arjun is definitely not fit to enter service (largely due to the faulty GSQR of the army borne out of their severe shortsightedness and general ineptitude).

Because they seemingly could not integrate it with the gunner's primary sight. Nope, no advantages, only drawbacks.

The MkIA has it but the main ammo stowage is located in the Hull front which is not isolated. So, in reality, it's just as much a death trap as a T-series MBT.

Rise of the beast - abbe pahele paida to hone de yaar!!

Yeah, T-90S as was mentioned by other members. You have to realize one thing: that round that was mentioned is based on mid-80s level of tech and is woefully, nay, hilariously outdated by today's standards!!

I asked what you thought, not what you knew, now did I not?? :)

What do you think??

Nothing to gloat about, really.

Well, I never said it was the bitterest of them all, now did I??

Because fact is often too bitter a pill to swalow.

Aww...did I hurt your little ego, poor kitten??!! Anyway, objectively speaking, Arjun is indeed the absolute worst MBT in active service (except the export model T-72s) by almost every quantifiable metrics you can rate an MBT.

Nope, still the old rounds with DoP of less than 25 cm RHAe at 60 degrees.

Perhaps because you lack even the most basic understanding about tank design?? Maybe pick up a book or two instead of relying solely on online propaganda pieces produced by a bunch of clueless mongs.

And what makes you believe that I haven't come across that project already?? Anyway, the Carmel is not even designated as a tank, it's just an AFV concept. It has got some novel design ideas but the 2 man crew part is not one of those. And you conveniently ignored everything else I said, so...

If anyone's been jumping up and down is none other than your sorry self. Great. Now as I said before, go spread your newfound wisdom to the Americans, the Germans, the French, and the Russians. A 60-ton Abrams has got more armor than the projected 120-ton E-100. Screw that, a 37-ton T-62 had...

Here we go again. So you are one of 'those' guys, I should have known. Dude, Arjun is a fucking embarrassment on caterpillar tracks!! it belongs in a fucking museum as an example of what an utter failure looks like and to serve as an example of how not to design a tank, if we can even call it...

Yeah but we already have more than 1500 T-90S in active service which are in need of modernization. By the way, the T-90S actually has got better armor coverage than the Arjun MkIA. That's what I said - i.e. upgrade them to MS standards. No, absolutely not!! Three crew members are the bare...