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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    Posts in the last few pages just go to show how naive, clueless, and impressionable fools some people in this forum are.
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    For once, stop being so paranoid, will ya??By that logic, the Turks could give the tot to Pak which then would invariably end up in the hands of Chinese, heck at one point, there was serious talk going on between Turkey and Pakistan for Altay MBT but that didn't stop the Germans from going on...
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    I would beg to differ.No matter how you look at things and how many variables you take into consideration, the result is completely black and white and the righting is on the wall.As things stands now, the rifled guns provide no advantage over their smooth barrel counterparts whatsoever...
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    I like how you just issue blanket statements without giving any explanations, unlike I.Everytime I make a certain assertion, I try to explain the reasons behind them to the best of my abilities, like whenever I say things like 'horse shit' or 'bullcrap', I always take the time to explain...
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    May be. Only until the A4 variant, later marks do not have that, not to that extent.And in Arjun's case, it's even worse, since the armor module behind the GMS doesn't extend back into the turret compartment, unlike Leo 2A4.And just because the Leo has a particular vulnerability, doesn't mean...
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    Nah, M1A2 ka turret usse bhi a66a hai.Usi chis ko hi le ate hain.
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    Come on, they gave the license to fucking Turks for crying out loud, so we should qualify without any hassle I would wager. That seems more reasonable, given the L/44 has around 1200 EFC.
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    Well, you didn't say it explicitly but certainly did mean it nevertheless.Now now, don't try to back pedal. kiddo. There isn't really that many reasons, heck I dare say there isn't a single good reason to retain an outdated technology such as a rifled main gun but above all, the 'reason' you...
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    Why should I when I never claimed any such things??Are you thick in your head, kiddo??Or are you just trying to get out of this shit you have thrown yourself into??I just said that smooth barrel guns handle APFSDS (and HEAT FS or any fin stabilized ammo type) rounds better than their rifled...
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    Ok then, so now please tell me of one other ammo type (except the HESH which has become pretty much useless these days against any and all types of military structures) that rifled guns can fire which the smooth barrel ones can not.
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    Give what?? No present generation tank gun has that kind of barrel life for APFSDS rounds.
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    See, this is why I hate having to discuss something with 5 year olds!!Really man, can't you even fuccking read??Boy, this is what I said - "Rifled guns, while firing fin stabilized ammo, do not provide any extra accuracy over their smooth barrel counterparts out to any distance - long or...
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    Why reinvent the wheel when we could simply get a license for the Rheinmetall L/55 along with the Israeli M338 APFSDS (customized DM 63), produce them in house and use the expertise to build bigger, more powerful guns, may be in 140 mm caliber??
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    Ok, so it's not really advanced by any conceivable means, but whatever. Yeah, why??Humor me please, Mr. Adam Jensen!! That's not an excuse!!The Americans knew how to make them, the Russians knew how to make those and so did the Germans, the French, and every other god damn nations!!Didn't stop...
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    Ok, since evidently some salty kids of members of this forum can not take valid facts, I'll rephrase what I had said earlier.It's pure nonsense.Rifled guns, while firing fin stabilized ammo, do not provide any extra accuracy over their smooth barrel counterparts out to any distance - long or...
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    I sincerely hope so. Which is kinda weird that the Army didn't ask for it during the MkII development process, don't you think sir??
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    No one blamed the DRDO, at least I never did, so I'm seriously having a hard time to see why you posted this. I've always maintained that it was the Army's fault, that their GSQR was faulty or rather, should I say that by the time the Army top brass were done shifting their goalposts, the rifled...
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    Discarding the present rifled gun in favor of a smooth barrel one, preferably the Rheinmetall L/55, for starter would be good.
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    Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

    You don't say. Yeah, the HESH round, which has become pretty much useless against almost every type of battle field structures, static or mobile, there is!!Not much of an advantage if you ask me, especially so once you take all the disadvatages that come with the rifled barrels into...
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