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Ha ha ha. You forget so easily on western sheningans. Turkey never got their money back after Americans kicked them out of the F-35 program. US held Pakistan money for a long time with respect to F-16 until the Afghanistan War. The French did not give Russia the Mistral ships and did not give...

eh they may be vanilla but they can be hangar queens and maintenance extensive. Recall the early 2000s where almost 3/4 of Mirages were out of commissions due to lack of spares because of costs.

So do the French. Look at the price we paid for the Mirage upgrade. Almost $50 million dollar per plane. They charge us a dime and nickel if we want to adjust or change the parameters on the Scorpene subs. The Rafale are priced nearly $300 million a plane. French and Russians are the same...

The Russians blew it when they didn't listen to IAF's suggestions or accept their demands. They basically told IAF to fuck off and IAF did. It could have been a very fruitful relationship but for some reasons the Russians got arrogant. Su-30 is the last Russian plane that India will buy...

Too little too late. Only thing left is massive carpet bombing on any large Ukrainian formations.

I hope for their sake, they get it right. They have one chance to get this right. If they don't, their aviation industry will disappear overnight and will be fucked for decades. Their planes need to be very safe and efficient. That is all they need to be.

Copium on high alert

Please post that in the Ukrainian conflict thread ASAP!!