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  1. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    It's not. CSL has other clients too, it doesn't depend on IN for orders. Images from December 2022, fairly recent.
  2. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    V-22's width is <6m when folded. Length isn't an issue either, the distance between the refuelling probe and the rear wheel set is <<14m. Its arse can hang, thanks to the sea-facing elevators.
  3. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    Difference in opinion, It was also said that it won't require any major refit for 10 years, reality is often disappointing. The current stand is that it is to be retired by 2040.
  4. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    A little correction, I meant to write CAG* First production variant of TEDBF is to roll out in 2031, after which it will join the service in a few months. Vikramaditya was never going to serve 40 years, I remember reading an article where a senior navy officer mentioned the year '2040' for the...
  5. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    Hangar bay of IAC-1/Vikrant 18 aircrafts, 8 MiG-29K and 10 helis.
  6. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    CCS gets it's numbers from official documented reports, it doesn't make it out of thin air. Yes, MiG-29K will be operating in the 40s and INS Vikramaditya will serve IN for 40 years, i.e. - 2053 👍 Vikramaditya did not require 3 major refit in the first 7 years (it will definitely not be going...
  7. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    We bought a new fighter for IAF in 2000s (MKI) LCA MK1 in mid 10s Rafale in 2020 LCA MK2 is supposed to be inducted in late 20s AMCA in 2030s. Difference between IAF's and IN's modernisation budget has come down to just 6-7k cr from 20-25k just a few years ago, it will likely match it in the...
  8. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    Because that was the original plan, and the jets were bought accordingly, 26 MiG-29K & 7 MiG-29KUB for Vikramaditya & 12 MiG-29K and 1 KUB for IAC-1. IAC-1 was to get the N LCA at that time (planned in 2004), which wasn't fruitful. IAC-1 was never designed to have "oNlY mIg-²9k", original plan...
  9. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    1. I said 'mid - late' i.e. - between 2035 and 40. 2. Did you know how many years it took from 'sanctioning of funding for the demonstration phase – the detailed design was approved.' and 'commissioning' HMS QE? Just 12 years. & it was a brand new design for which the detailed design phase began...
  10. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    Let's establish some understandings - Only 26 MRCBF are to be bought. MiG-29K/KUB will be phased out completely with the arrival of TEDBF in numbers (i.e. - mid to late 30s). Vikky will be decommissioned in the late 30s. (Hull will be too old, it will only be a liability given the poor...
  11. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    It won't be phasing out SH/Rafale M, but just taking it's place on the deck, SH/Rafale M can be operated from naval air stations. This also depends on if Navy is able to take the shore based anti shipping role from IAF like it took the role of maritime reconnaissance in 1976. There's only...
  12. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    32, as is already pointed out. Some pics- It was always going to be 32, but we deluded ourselves into believing that it will be 64 for some reason.
  13. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    IAC-1/Vikrant 42,800T 262.5m long, 61.6m wide, 61.6m high Flight deck area - 12,500m² Crew - 1600 Speed - 28 knots Range - 7,500nm at 18 knots Aircraft capacity - over 30 Propulsion - 88MW Electric - 24MW 10+5 deck 2,300 compartments 32 MR-SAM AK-630 as CIWS 2× 10*14 aircraft elevator (30T...
  14. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    Source for the article & my statement is the same, MDL's Q1 earnings concall. & GRSE's CMD has also mentioned P-17B in the Q1 earnings concall that took place yesterday. This isn't something that navy is just 'thinking about' but making an active case for, under thr maritime perspective plan...
  15. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    I have seen plans of a fleet including 5 carriers in the late 2000s & early 2010s & am aware of the difference between reality and optimism. My 'argument' about inflation, the numbers I have stated are from shipyards themselves, I have not made them up. IAC-1 repeat will cost in upwards of...
  16. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    & collapse like how USSR did, right? Military isn't the only sector in India, I have already pointed this out in a previous post just a couple of days ago! Yes, no need for AAW escorts or any kind of retaliatory strike option like SSBNs, just fill the ships up with BruhMos & you'll be alright...
  17. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    Very interesting, you choose to give a unique example that does not contribute to the discussion at hand. The problem with type 45 is unique to itself, there are other boats like QEC, Zumwalt, Juan Carlos I and several vessels in JMSDF, RN & RAN which work fine with their IEP/IFEP Reality...
  18. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    So you want IN to go for a CVN with steam catapults? Because a separate steam generating system will eat up a lot of space, the space that could be used to store fuel and ammunition. Steam catapults on a conventionally powered carrier is even more retarded idea than EM catapults on a CV. GA's EM...
  19. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    What? What made you think that these lights are too many? Vikramaditya- QEC - No, it wants IAC-2, shall Navy have it now?
  20. Adm Kenobi

    INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

    You want some tube light with 'military grade' sticker on it? You got it 👍 BTW, building two more IAC-1 is one of the most stupidest ideas. It's a statement. "No." the best you'll see is sanctioning the detailed design phase of IAC-2 with a foreign partner. Navy does not need or want another...
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