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the power of discourse of Western Government and Media is another kind of "weapon of mass destruction" in their hands... when they want to start the smear campaign , such daily happening issues would be highlighted on purpose at the right time...but if you follow the history about these...

I can do some introduction about RussianAF actions on the East Front in the past 20 years... the 'victim'(LOL...just kidding) is our neighbour--Japan the Russian long range Tu95 would do the monthly flying training around the Japan's four main islands...just outside of the Japan baseline of...

Re: Sukhoi Su 30MKI it's a J11BS 2 seater trainer... isn't this Su30MKI thread? why you put so many Su27UBK,J11BS and J16 here...

Re: Sukhoi Su 30MKI in above #240 post... I'm afraid that they are J11(twin seater--Su27UBK) and J10A came from the No.3X,and No.4X fighter Divisions of ChengDu Military Region .None is MKK...and some J8FR Recon planes also could be spotted. the difference is the top of 'vertical fin' Flat=...

(PS.nachiket is a BR member who raised the question "Chacko, are these numbers confirmed? 1700 km ferry range seems awfully low. Or is that on internal fuel alone (no drop tanks)?") this should be the so called 'confirmation' ....but this sir's following explaination is not that professional...

great and meaningful job with a objective and fair performance table and I have read it in the T50 golden eagle &JF17 thread on Keypublishing forum already. but this statement is questionable, I'm sure JF/17( the same in J10 ,or F16, or M2K cases...) would sortie with at least two Drop tanks...

...in counting of J7's H-H-H interception profie case , we often set a Scene of 2 minutes air combat with after burner...but anyway most times the plane takes the flight at subsonic and high subsonic speed.and during internal fuel and ferry range flight test the plane don't use the...

the chief designer of JF17 project --YangWei had a a course of lectures at the China's top science and engineering university: Qinghua university in Mar 2006...in this lecture , he talking about the FC-1's PT04 which was going to take the maiden flight later and mentioned the range data: 1800KM...

that's it.... 1900km for F16A's internal fuel range...quite close to our normally quoted F16's data in Chinese books and papers... and the comparable F16C equivalent(simliar empty weight and take-off weight, same class of engine): the J10 with around 3.1-3.3 ton's internal fuel has a around...

1.obviously so called' KM/L' or 'L/KM'(car driver?) is your own invented 'method of calculation'.I just follw you logic for fun...you chose or invented such funny method as some one said....and in mig 29's case,that was powered by two RD33...LOL 2. FC-1's fuel ： 2300kg/0.775=2967L , external...

obviously , it's not me but someone else was doing such things to question other plane except your glorious LCA...and I just follow his logic...no double standard here please...I don't like to use the 'quote' , but you could read the above posts. once again. the FC-1's 1800Km' basic range and...

Mig29C powered by two RD33 with 4540 liters internal fuel ...the ferry range： 1500KM... let's make a simple but not very suitable calculation: 0.66KM/L F16C with 3 drop tanks (around 8000-8400L) ...the ferry range: 4220KM FC-1 powered by one RD93 with 3000 lithers internal fuel ... the ferry...

Re: ADA LCA Tejas - IV BTW, I thought you might think about Mig29 varient's ferry range without drop tank listed on the MIg website...I thought it could be considered to be the internal fuel range...MIg29 used to be labelled as some 'short-leg' by the west. Mig29 old varients: 1400KM-1500km...

Re: ADA LCA Tejas - IV I thought I have made it clear... 1.I introduced a common concept in china military standerd here: the basic range--- which reflects some basic flight performance of a airplane...it's more simlar to the internal fuel range,but with 2 PL5IIE SRAAM and full 23mm Gun...

Re: ADA LCA Tejas - IV quite strange...I really don't understand you would show off such basic concept here, I thought you needn't push such so called' popularization of science' to me...actually some other members might need your so 'profound' knowledge more ... what I did were: 1. correct...

Re: ADA LCA Tejas - IV about FC-1/JF17...so called internal Fuel weight ratio 1 Weight of fuel / (Empty weight + weight of fuel): 2300kg/(6400+2300)=26.4% 2 Weight of fuel / normal take off rate: 2300kg / 9100kg= 25.2% in China standard, we usually use the another concept: basic range...