Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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Corvus Splendens

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Polan is going to forcefully drag all Ukrainian refugees back to the meat grinder. Polan needs Ukraine to keep fighting for a bit longer while they complete arming themselves with the lion's share of US and Korean MIC delicacies. NAFO talks high and mighty but here they have no problem throwing refugees towards Russian lines. So Polan gets more time to bolster their borders before Russia finishes flattening Ukrainian infra, less burden on polish economy too, win win for Polan.
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As a result, men aged between 18 and 59 living abroad will be unable to renew expiring passports or obtain new ones. Poland has suggested in the past helping Ukraine so that those who are subject to military service go back to their country to fulfill their civic obligation, Kosiniak-Kamysz told Polsat News television.
"I think many Poles are outraged when they see young Ukrainian men in hotels and cafes, and they hear how much effort we have to make to help Ukraine," Defence Minister Wladyslaw Kosiniak-Kamysz said.
 

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WW3 is now closer than ever.


Biden is so fucking stupid. Russia will now massively retaliate. This is the point of no return.

@Akim, if WW3 starts because of this, I hope by God that your country burns in hell and all of your fucking countrymen die a slow painful death.

I curse Biden and his family to hell and Boris Johnson.
I wouldn't go that far but imho, I do not think the Pentagon &/or the State Department will allow Ukraine to use force in any way that gives Russia an excuse to climb the escalation ladder, and retaliate using far more devastating weapons ad tactics. This in turn will completely engage Europe and the US to a far larger extent than currently. Though some in the West are vying for a strategic calculus in which they want Ukraine to attack targets into the Russian heartland far more freely, and though anything's possible, I doubt that'll happen; that's also probably the only way Ukraine has a chance to properly deter Russia(i.e. not including the nuclear threat). I wonder if the American bureaucrats and strategic thinkers foresaw this, if yes, it was a brilliant stroke by the State Department to push for Ukraine giving up its nukes and become dependent on the US and get bled out for its geopolitical maneuvers, coz it really does feel like the US is using Ukraine to bleed Russia but Ukraine bleeds regardless.
 

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Footage of the evacuation of the Russian Tsar tank T-72 from the battlefield in Ukraine. The Tsar Tank, also called the Tank-Grill, ran over a mine and stalled. The combat vehicle was attacked by Ukrainian FPV drones, but improvised protection minimized damage from the drones and the tank was not damaged. A combat vehicle was evacuated from the battlefield in the Krasnogorovka area by one of the Russian evacuation ARVs. It is worth noting that there are more and more tanks with such protection against drones, there are already several of them, at the moment this design most effectively protects against drones. They laugh at the design. But now there is no effective protection of tanks from drones. The Israeli army is now also installing canopies to protect tanks from drones

 

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But both Vietnam and Afghanistan had crazy high birth rates when they were at war. Ukraine has absolute garbage demographics.
Ukraine can't fight infinitely, no matter the resources. And the longer it fights, the direr its long term future regardless of the outcome of this war.

Ukraine is basically sacrificing itself fully on this altar, even if it somehow wins (not going to happen).
Who gives a shit? the Ukranians don't, they are happy to die on the altar of America.
The (((Maiden Revolution))) and it's aftermath are a crime on this tribe.
 

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Expect addition of a few months of war, and a few prestige attacks inside Russia by Ukranians (some refinery or bridge or symbolic target being blown) but no change in final outcome.
Final outcome is Ukranians becoming an endangered species, win the men as fertilizer, children kidnapped and sent to siberia, and women in the whorehouses of the EU.
And Russia becoming a vassal resource-slave of China.

Hope Nolund and her (((masters))) like the outcome
 

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Unique footage of a close flyby of a Russian Su-25SM3 attack aircraft next to a drone in Ukraine. Filming from a Russian drone, location unknown. Due to the close passage of the aircraft, the drone was thrown back by the aircraft's jet stream, from a height of 58 meters to 39 meters, the altitude sensor on the left.

 

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US Secretary of state Blinken giving the Ultimatum to China "in China" over military component trade with Russia

Looks like US might consider imposing serious sanctions on China..

 

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US Secretary of state Blinken giving the Ultimatum to China "in China" over military component trade with Russia

Looks like US might consider imposing serious sanctions on China..

It will be a rap on the knuckles type sanctions, nothing we haven't seen before.
Chinki will also give a huffing and puffing reaction in response.

This is all political theatre, Goras can't live without Chinese goods, their economies will collapse.
Chinku can live without those Gora provided bux and jobs for a time, like how Russkie is right now, "enjoying" the War Economy's "prosperity"

Gora wants to go green, in Europe his women are being greened by immigrants, but he wants his electricity and car to be green to and China provides the materials for those.
 

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Why are Ukrainians fighting the Russians

This enmity between Ukraine and Russia is a misguided rivalry. Historically and culturally, as well as politically, Russia and Ukraine share deep bonds as first cousins. Both follow orthodox Christianity, distinguishing them from Western Europe's Roman Catholic or Protestant traditions. Kiev, often hailed as the mother of Russia's religious identity, historically played a pivotal role in the spread of Orthodox Christianity.

The underlying question is: why are these cousin brothers at odds?

The answer is straightforward. Western Ukraine, enticed by the promise of prosperity, seeks integration with Western Europe, while the ethnically Russian Eastern Ukraine opposes American/NATO expansionism. Crimea, predominantly Russian, desires reunification with Russia after the Soviet Union's dissolution in 1991, having been administratively transferred to Ukraine, recently.

Exploiting these regional differences, NATO and the United States exacerbated internal conflicts, ultimately leading to the ejection of successive leaders. As tensions escalated, Russia supported Russian-speaking regions in ejecting Western-leaning factions. The prospect of easy NATO membership dangled by America fueled the conflict.

Had America not enticed Western Ukrainians with NATO membership, this conflict might have been avoided. Unfortunately, an escalating war ensues, with Ukrainians suffering regardless of Western propaganda efforts. While Western Europeans and Americans threaten war, they lack the resolve to engage in a losing battle, preferring to perpetuate their propaganda war.

The overall American objective is to demolish Russia by defeating it in Ukraine. This objective is unlikely to be achieved. It looks that in-spite of huge influx of weapons by the NATO/Americans, the Ukrainians are nowhere close to recovering their territory lost to the Russians. Then comes the key question….. why fight a loosing war.
 

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Why are Ukrainians fighting the Russians

This enmity between Ukraine and Russia is a misguided rivalry. Historically and culturally, as well as politically, Russia and Ukraine share deep bonds as first cousins. Both follow orthodox Christianity, distinguishing them from Western Europe's Roman Catholic or Protestant traditions. Kiev, often hailed as the mother of Russia's religious identity, historically played a pivotal role in the spread of Orthodox Christianity.

The underlying question is: why are these cousin brothers at odds?

The answer is straightforward. Western Ukraine, enticed by the promise of prosperity, seeks integration with Western Europe, while the ethnically Russian Eastern Ukraine opposes American/NATO expansionism. Crimea, predominantly Russian, desires reunification with Russia after the Soviet Union's dissolution in 1991, having been administratively transferred to Ukraine, recently.

Exploiting these regional differences, NATO and the United States exacerbated internal conflicts, ultimately leading to the ejection of successive leaders. As tensions escalated, Russia supported Russian-speaking regions in ejecting Western-leaning factions. The prospect of easy NATO membership dangled by America fueled the conflict.

Had America not enticed Western Ukrainians with NATO membership, this conflict might have been avoided. Unfortunately, an escalating war ensues, with Ukrainians suffering regardless of Western propaganda efforts. While Western Europeans and Americans threaten war, they lack the resolve to engage in a losing battle, preferring to perpetuate their propaganda war.

The overall American objective is to demolish Russia by defeating it in Ukraine. This objective is unlikely to be achieved. It looks that in-spite of huge influx of weapons by the NATO/Americans, the Ukrainians are nowhere close to recovering their territory lost to the Russians. Then comes the key question….. why fight a loosing war.
Ukrainian society is fucked for generations. I seriously doubt that the remaining Ukraine can really recover from this conflict.
 

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