european military technology? lol....the europeans might as well do it fast, for otherwise there won't a customer that is China when the current "five-plan" ends in 2015. oh yes, we might still need some inputs for engines, but the rest....well ...european avionics are definitely passe...lol!
EU could end China arms embargo early 2011
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SHASH2K2
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Well SIR\CIR you are absolutely correct china will beat entire World hands down. I am very much impressed by Chinese technology . Any Idea about what prnciple chinese RADARs work on ? As per Mr BG they all work on AESA principle instead of Doppler principle. I am really impressed about how you people discovered something new. ALso if you can tell us if in your AESA radar you people are usinf GAS or GAN modules? USA is working on 3rd generation of AESA and world is working on 2nd generation of AESA while china is working on 1st generation of AESA and you are having wet dreams of beating shit out of Europe? Also a plane needs avionics to perform which you guys need to work on .
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thats the reason sometimes I dont trust French . they have a long history of dealing with both sides. I dont know if its a pressure tactics from french for India to go for Rafale ?
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The french will sell rafale if India pays, sells mistrals if Russia pays, Agosta for pakistan, the list goes long. I am not surprised when I find french military platforms in china under a civilian stamp. Thats simply good business.
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U really can't blame them, what china wants is mature technology for weapons platforms. Either the USA or EU will move together like supplying avionics, transport aircraft fixed and rotary wing or china could try to steal data with its cyber army and try to replicate into its platforms. So they stand to lose business in the short term if they refrain anyway.
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This maybe a little too late?? The gap between china and the rest of the world has diminished and the Chinese members view this as a ploy to stunt further development??
No,China still has a longway to go and can learn a lot from the EU.But the decision of ending arms embargo is hard to say.The gap between Eu and China is still huge.Some Chinese believe that China don't need EU tec now,that idea is navie.We still have a long long way to go.
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we should learn everything we can from others , thus , this news is good for us .i m sure we can learn a lot from EU.
yes, you get some points.
Just like Japan did in 1950s,buying the tecs and patents,study them,absorb them,then make our owns ones based on them(or you call them repulics).At last,we produce our own ones according to tecnology accumulation and innovation.
Just like Japan did in 1950s,buying the tecs and patents,study them,absorb them,then make our owns ones based on them(or you call them repulics).At last,we produce our own ones according to tecnology accumulation and innovation.
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EU to Keep China Arms Embargo Despite Massive Investments
Catherine Ashton has failed to persuade the UK and other Beijing-critical member states to lift the EU arms embargo on China. But China is continuing to build influence in the Union with bond purchases from vulnerable countries.
"There remains a broad consensus within the EU that the time is not right to lift the arms embargo. We need to see clear progress on the issues that necessitated the embargo in the first place, namely on civil liberties and political rights," a British diplomat told EUobserver on Tuesday (4 January) in response to speculation on a potential shift in EU policy, which would require a consensus of all 27 EU members.
A diplomat from a former Communist EU country added: "There is simply no talk of it in the run-up to the EU foreign ministers' meeting [on 31 January]. After the Nobel Peace Prize and China's reaction to that, it is politically unimaginable to make any move for the time being."
Leaving aside the moral dimension, any change on the embargo could also harm EU-US relations.
Asked by EUobserver on Tuesday if the US is reconsidering its position on China arms sales, the State Department pointed to comments made by a senior US diplomat, John Hillen, in 2005 as still being relevant. Mr Hillen at the time said that lifting the embargo would "raise a major obstacle to future US defence co-operation with Europe."
The EU imposed the ban in 1989 in response to China's killings of thousands of dissidents during protests in Beijing's Tiananmen Square.
France and Spain have recently argued that the arms ban is out of date due to China's economic metamorphosis and de facto changes in EU-China trade relations. The EU's foreign relations chief, British politician Catherine Ashton, aligned herself with anti-embargo countries in a strategy paper on China delivered to EU leaders in December. The paper said the embargo is "a major impediment" for better relations and that the Union should elaborate "a way forward."
http://geneva-globaldefence.blogspot.com/2011/01/eu-to-keep-china-arms-embargo-despite.html#more
Catherine Ashton has failed to persuade the UK and other Beijing-critical member states to lift the EU arms embargo on China. But China is continuing to build influence in the Union with bond purchases from vulnerable countries.
"There remains a broad consensus within the EU that the time is not right to lift the arms embargo. We need to see clear progress on the issues that necessitated the embargo in the first place, namely on civil liberties and political rights," a British diplomat told EUobserver on Tuesday (4 January) in response to speculation on a potential shift in EU policy, which would require a consensus of all 27 EU members.
A diplomat from a former Communist EU country added: "There is simply no talk of it in the run-up to the EU foreign ministers' meeting [on 31 January]. After the Nobel Peace Prize and China's reaction to that, it is politically unimaginable to make any move for the time being."
Leaving aside the moral dimension, any change on the embargo could also harm EU-US relations.
Asked by EUobserver on Tuesday if the US is reconsidering its position on China arms sales, the State Department pointed to comments made by a senior US diplomat, John Hillen, in 2005 as still being relevant. Mr Hillen at the time said that lifting the embargo would "raise a major obstacle to future US defence co-operation with Europe."
The EU imposed the ban in 1989 in response to China's killings of thousands of dissidents during protests in Beijing's Tiananmen Square.
France and Spain have recently argued that the arms ban is out of date due to China's economic metamorphosis and de facto changes in EU-China trade relations. The EU's foreign relations chief, British politician Catherine Ashton, aligned herself with anti-embargo countries in a strategy paper on China delivered to EU leaders in December. The paper said the embargo is "a major impediment" for better relations and that the Union should elaborate "a way forward."
http://geneva-globaldefence.blogspot.com/2011/01/eu-to-keep-china-arms-embargo-despite.html#more
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All's well that ends well. LOL
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Lol，they have their ideaS and I have mine，that's all.I hope we can improve our technology level.If we can buy the weapons easily，then we will become lazy and don't want to research them .After all， research is difficult and risky .
