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  1. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    And the Finno-Ugric Tribes from the Viking Yoke. :biggrin2:
  2. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    The most widely accepted theory is what I have been saying, in summary: Slavs already lived in Russia. Vikings came and began to rule the Slavs. Slavs revolted, defeated, and evicted the vikings. Slavs started to fight with each other. Vikings were invited back to restore order.
  3. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    Where did Russia come from? - Alex Gendler Largely agrees with what @Razor and I have been saying in this thread. Sorry, @jouni. Your knowledge of European history is "less than perfect" [sic.]. o_O
  4. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    @gadeshi, please have a look at this thread. There is a lot of interesting content here, which all started with some of us countering @jouni's claims.
  5. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    I posted a lot of the content there, so thanks for telling me what I know. To borrow a word from another person, you have a compacted self esteem. Read the thread title again. Yes, you are right. I mis-spellt. Rurick started Novgorod polity, and later Oleg started Kievskaya Rus. The important...
  6. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    You might want to study how the Vikings came to Lake Logoda and enslaved the Finno-Ugric tribes and how the Slavic tribes defeated and kicked Rurik and his fellow Vikings in the butt and sent them packing back to Roslagen, and saved your Finno-Ugric ancestors. That explains your inferiority...
  7. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    Varangian = Swedish (North-East European) Russians = Slavic (South-East European) Finns = Finno-Ugric (Eurasian/Uralic) End of story.
  8. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    This is a well known that Russians are indeed Slavs, but let us look at genetic evidences: Haplogroup R1a Distribution Areas of Slavic 'homeland', according to Mallory Excerpts from Wiki article that further references other scientific research from various countries. So, looks like...
  9. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    Probability, yes. I think there is a very high probability that Danes and Swedes are cousins of the Germans.
  10. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    The Vikings are believed to be an off-shoot of Teutons anyway, due to their similarity with the Germans (Teutons/Deutchen) in two ways: Linguistic Genetic So, what you are saying is possibility.
  11. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    You are going to shatter my world view with this article from this source? :lol: In any case, does not change the fact Prince Rurik was a Viking. No one denies that Russians are mixed with lot of different ethnicities, or that most of the Finno-Ugric lands are in Russia, but Russians are not...
  12. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    What is the source of this map? I see some inaccuracies and omissions in the quoted map. All alternative hypotheses are also theories. Most of the Scandinavian Peninsula (east of the Gulf of Bothnia), around 8th and 9th centuries, according to the map below, was inhabited by the Vikings, and...
  13. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    Excerpt from this link, with commentary added: Hang in there. More to follow. ;) @Razor, keep an eye on this thread. :D
  14. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    There are Finns almost everywhere in Russia, because Russia is the ancestral homeland of the Finns, and by far not the present day Finland. I suspect @jouni might disagree with me here, but that is ok. There is also a person, who could be a real person, or myth, or whose "historical"...
  15. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    @Razor is correct, and if I may add, Finns are descended from the Finno-Ugric or Ugro-Finn tribes. Finno-Ugric peoples Excerpt: Here are some examples of people from the regions highlighted above: Arsen Pavlov aka Motorola is from Komi. Ruslan Provodnikov, a Russian boxer, is from...
  16. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    Cross-referencing an important post: http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/europe-russia/61895-civil-war-ukraine-806.html#post1014139
  17. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    @jouni, I like those pictures, but not the puerile comment at the end of it.
  18. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    Nicholas Roerich Full name in Roman: Nikolai Konstantinovich Rerikh Full name in Cyrillic: Никола́й Константи́нович Ре́рих Rurik sounds very similar to Rerikh. Could it be that he is descended from Prince Rurik? He also worked as a stage designer for a play...
  19. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    @jouni, thank you from presenting content from MySpace. @Razor, glad you caught that one. Also, I am amazed at your knowledge. Thank you for that information on Nicholas Roerich.
  20. pmaitra

    Prince Rurik's real ancestry

    I worry about being a victim of human sacrifice. ;)
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