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Yup. The 5th gen fighter market just sucks. Even though the F 22 went public in 1996, no one else started scrambling to match it. There was this lazy post cold war mentality that "America has the best weapons in the world, no point in trying to catch up, the soviet union is gone anyway". This is...

I didn't say India should go it alone. I said to even participate in a consortium India must have SOME aviation expertise. That will require build up of various types of companies, labs and production facilities capable of contributing to this joint project, which India does not currently...

Well said. Goes to show that there is no alternative to developing indigenous know how. I think India would be well served pouring money into domestic R&D and helping private sector aviation companies to come up rather than repeatedly spending tens of billions on foreign fighters again and...

I accept the duel, Frenchman! Now all you have to do is take a flight to Chennai. In all seriousness, you're right. France seems like the only option now to jointly develop a true stealth air superiority fighter. But if that happens you guys have to live up to your end of the bargain of...

Japan Wants Lockheed Martin to Make an F-22/F-35 Hybrid Sources tell Reuters that Japan is discussing plans for a new air superiority fighter with international contractors. https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a19871450/japan-lockheed-martin-f-22-f-35-hybrid/

Then fuck it. We should start working on serious anti stealth measures.

Im saying Japan and SK have separate 5th gen programs apart from F 35. We could have done a joint project in one of those. And I also am not a proponent for buying the F 35.

So what? France is also a client state of the US but we bought rafales from them, and jointly made scorpene submarines. Both Japan and S.Korea have started their own 5th gen programs and will need another partner if they want adequate funding and large orders. The two countries will never...

So the first 5th gen fighter we will get will be the worst 5th gen fighter in the world (F 35). Great. If not Russia we should have tied up with Japan or South Korea in making a stealth fighter. Im not expecting AMCA to be operational anytime before 2035. We should have bought a modest number of...