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Also turns out there is somere Ukrainian aerospace tech that Chinese desperately needed before the Ukrainians cancelled the deal, so China was trying to sue. China’s Skyrizon sues Ukrainian government for $4.5 billion over failed Motor Sich bid (kyivindependent.com) Not a sign of being at par...

Clearly. But again, not a source.

pakistan defence forum.... :daru:

Hmm. Actually finding it difficult to find pakistani sources on this. There's a similar report on deficiencies on Chinese ships for the Malaysian navy. Jane's report. Malaysia tallies deficiencies observed on first Keris-class littoral mission ship (janes.com) Main deficiencies are the sensors...

Italian media. Not Indian. Chinese frigates give jitters to Pakistani Navy - Geopolitica.info

"The Vice Chief of Naval Staff, Pakistan Navy, expressed great concern over the issue to the head of the shipping company and asked to be compensated for the loss of operational time. An equally serious deficiency noticed in PNS Zulfiqar, the first Chinese frigate to be commissioned, was the NG...

You can't even produce proper gyroscopes as shown, and expect people to believe your AAM's are upto even Russian quality. LOL.

Chinese quality overall, including missiles, gyroscopes, radars etc Defective critical components, poor service from Chinese manufacturers give nightmares to Pakistani Navy – ThePrint – ANIFeed China has even relied on Ukraine for various military tech China is close to Russia, but it has...

You were the one citing it as some sort of "source". If I was citing something it would at least be a proper paper or report. Jury's out on your final sentence.

I'm talking about the fabled Taiwan invasion which Xi Jinping keeps chest thumping about, which you said won't happen, so I guess it's all bluster. BTW, some random website with "top 7" air to air missiles is your source? LOL come on.

All bluster from Xi Jinping then? Figures.

Engines, air to air missiles, SAMs, radar, submarine technology, etc not yet. Fifth generation fighters we have no idea what the level of stealth is like on those fighters, making something look like an F 35 doesn't make it one, so can't conclude. AI too we don't know what China has or doesn't...

Don't tell him that, he'll say JF 17 blunder shot down an Su 30 MKI :pound::pound:

As you said, "China will overtake Russia". Future tense, not present tense, in terms of quality of military technology.

What is the service life and maintainability of these engines compared to Russian engines? For drones and surface ships, again, the ships may be bigger and have more missile cells, but the quality of the radars, air defences, and propulsion is no better than Russian technology. The carrier is...

Is there a single example of Chinese military technology being better than it's Russian counterpart? Their radars, missiles, submarines and tanks are worse in every respect compared to Russian equivalents. They still depend on Russia for complex equipment like Engines, both for J10 and JF 17...

150 fighters for 2 billion dollars. Those were the days. 😭😭 Calculating for inflation, that equals 5.97 billion USD today. If only India wasn't so poor back then.

Yup. Early f 35 maneuverability was limited by the software. They didn't allow to fly the plane to it's potential. Subsequent software upgrades have allowed the F 35 to fly like it was intended to. The engine thrust on the F 35 is also more than most twin engine fighters, at 190 KN.

By the same price 110 fighters can be purchased for 13 billion dollars. Again, it's the only quality western fighter we can purchase in decent numbers.

Yes, after 10 years of negotiating MMRCA 2 and abandoning it, in the year 2030 the IAF will place orders for 36 more Rafales.