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CMI Marketing in Poland is stronger and stronger. They (CMI) are trying to forced 105mm APFSDS as main AT weapons in motorizated bde. For exmaple: https://fragout.uberflip.com/i/467260/118 (pages 110-120) The problem is here: and the answer how it's really look is here...

Polish 125mm APFSDS. Penetration on 2300m circa 500-520mm RHA; on 1500m circa 550mm RHA.

"New-old" APFSDS-T from Russia. This is NOT Swiniec-1 nor 3Bm42M Lekalyo It was easy to rescale this penetrator - it's totall lenght equal to 640mm, so it's possible to be placed in standard Ob.184 and Ob.188 autoloader casettes: casette lenght: 6ETs40 (T-64B) - 710-730 mm...

Of coure they are realted, you just don't understand this, or can't admitt tahat you where postign bullshits from last few pages

Again, becouse you have some really hard problems whit understand simply tekst: First one (red) - shooting 2N (N = night) instruction: secodn one (green) shooting B1 - instruction: third one (blue) shooting B1N - instruction: And question for child from shool...

in chineese tank :) in Leo-2A4 it's: 14/14 so 100% and 41/42 so 97,6%, and 45/46 so 97,8% for distance 1600-1800m in moving tank. And again -those values are given on offcial page 10 Arm.Tk,Cav.Bde: ..:: 10BKPanc :: 2005 ::.. But it's not strange when we consider the fact that WNA-H22...

Rather opposite - I'm wasting my time to write here again and again all prooffs about those shooting. It's you problem that you are uncappable to admitt that I have proven that Leo-2A4 can hit from 1600-1800 target whit 100% accuracy while tank it's moving ant least 20-25km/h. You have...

No, they are THE SAME. Check again. It's not my prblem that you cant understand two simple screnshoots from oficial instrucion and oficial trening descripsion from Tank unit webpage. More or less: at least 20km/h (or 25km/h) 1600-1800m 14/14 120mm in target

You facken idiot - you have ALL EVIDENCES "on table": 1) official statsment from tank bde, whit shooting results + photos 2) reqiurments of polish MoD about exatly this type (2n) of shooting What is "unclear"? You have ALL given in OFFICIAL data from army - shooting results, and trening type...

all is related. moving at least 20km/h 14 leopard-2A4 hit 14 times the targets on 1600-1800m distance.

ROTFL rest 3 holes where absolutly good visible for all and for TV but one was not? LOL on video there is no slightest mark of hit in 50:52. But nice try!

I proof all thinks; 100% accuracy during move (14/14) (trening descripsion on Tank.Bde web page) distance 1600-1800 (oficial maanuals from polish MoD) spped: at least 20km/h etc

Wath those damm vide on YT! Танковый биатлон 2014 - 4 Выпуск 13.09.2014 (HD) - YouTube All is visible: 50:48 - first shoot - target hit 50:52 - second shoot - miss target! all is visible on photo 50:59 - third shoot - hit target on upper edge 51:11-crew is runing...

ROTFL. No, you don't understand at all: Type-96A from tank biathlon on 1600-1800m from FIXED POSITION: from this video: Танковый биатлон 2014 - 4 Выпуск 13.09.2014 (HD) - YouTube since 50:01 first tank had broken FCS so Chineese team put next one Type-96A and...

and example of the accuracy in move: ..:: 10BKPanc :: 2005 ::.. Photos:

menhwile: ammo HE-FRAG test in Poland where done using 20km/h for tank: (please notice that this is normal HE-FRAG not APFSDS-T-TP or HEAT). Nice values anyway -like for HE-FRAG :)

And @methos proof that you have no idea about what you are talking. Despite faact that ATK company in their pdf have rather right then you. As methos claimd:

And again Poland - "fresh" crews after basic trening and their first in life shooting. Tank not moving, target not moving, distance 1000m: anybody can compare whit chineese Type-96A "accuracy"...

copied from other topic: for compare Polish Leopard-2A4: tank was moving of course :-) and needed accuracy when tank is not moving: polish 120mm trening munition APFSDS-T-TP disprencion on 1000m: Used on M1 Abrams 120mm ammo tested on Leopard-2: