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  1. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    Dude, what part of of my rather long answer u didnt get?... As i`m learning rather quickly this forum is more like Entrenched Views India than Defence Forum India... Anyways you be happy with your POV...Peace Out and Kapeesh...
  2. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    As i said, i deeply respect Mr. Biswas, whether or not hes serving, and i do not hold his opinion against him. But coming from a armed forces family, I do not take their word on face value or gospel truth reg. everything military or any other issues for that matter. Im a nosy nonconformist...
  3. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    To talk of INSAS as a good reliable rifle is so pointless, i wouldn't even get into it. If it was such a good rifle it wouldn't be getting replaced so quickly, within 20 yrs. Army was looking for a replacement way even before that. So lets not discuss that. Excalibur, is an unknown entity and a...
  4. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    Thats the most unscientific thing ive ever heard. In social Media we call this blind following, Bhakti. Why have this forum in the first place if you are prepared to take the word of an individual as gospel truth? there can not any holy cows in a forum or taboo topics, coz then it shall cease...
  5. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    My parting shot especially coz u seem totally incapable of providing any authentic source except yourself ofcourse...Ever heard of a rifle getting sued or court intervention sought to get it replaced? Well your dearest fearless rifle has that rare achievement and notoriety...
  6. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    So says Self-Appointed COAS @Kunal Biswas who also serves as DG OFB...and all his posts self-authenticate and do not require any source verification...but would still not provide an authentic source proving a Sub-4Kg 5.56 INSAS standard rifle in existence...be it of any colour furniture...I dont...
  7. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    Am not into calling names at all but you are continuing this argument, unnecessarily, if you did read my prev. post. i did say we`re at extreme irreconcilable positions on this topic and lets respectfully disengage. What part of it u didnt get? Why on earth shud i go with your version? The guys...
  8. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    Damn, you really are the fanatical fanboy arent you? and i seeming to have gotten your goat by swinging at your fav. toy. Would counter only 1 point from the entire gibbrish youve posted, Heres what OFB the manufacturer of your dear fearless rifle has to say about the specifications of a...
  9. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    @Kunal Biswas And you refuse to understand any other point except yours or consider any other POV...as i said we are at extreme positions...I find you very similar to AR-15 fanatics in the US who are so defensive about their weapon of choice that they refuse to hear any argument against it and...
  10. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    Ive never fired 6.5 Grendel coz Ar-15 chambered in it are very rare to find. But ive heard its better than even 6.8 SPC, Its supposed to stay supersonic at a distance of over 1200 metres when fired from a 20 inch barrel. Was reading somewhere Ak-12 might be chambered in a round similar to 6.5X39...
  11. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    Exactly, even Paras use Tavor. Its proven to be in favor with the Indian special forces community.
  12. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    Which is so sad really...if one includes the entire armed forces, paramilitary, central armed forces, Reserves, and all Indian police. Thats easily 6 million+ uniformed johnnies. Imagine each of them armed with an Ak-74M 5.45X39. Thats one heck of firepower we are talking about here. And such...
  13. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    Very logical points raised by you and let me respond to them. 1. The issue with INSAS is vis-a-vis 5.56 NATO is not about the round itself but the rifle, hell even Tavor, HK 416, Steyr AUG etc. all fire 5.56 but do not hear too many complaints about them do we? An 18 Inch poorly designed 4.5...
  14. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    Ah well the questions were rhetorical in nature, and i already knew the answers. Just wanted to point out the inadequacy of the INSAS system, which didnt attract the attention of any armies beyond few countries in the Indian influence zone of SAARC. Heck Galil alone was in use by over 40...
  15. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    AK Platform is the most ideally suited for Indian conditions. Its battle proven, cheap and easy to make, easy to use, easy to train. Dunno why we didnt adopt and embrace it fully in the first place. Heck we cudve even gone for a 5.56 NATO variant if we were so in love with that round, ala the...
  16. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    Well your are an Indian Army vet, who as actually used these weapons in a conflict situation, i would obviously give tremendous weightage to your opinion. But then you are obviously not the sole representative voice of the entire Indian Armed Forces fraternity, and i would include paramilitary...
  17. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    HaHa US SOCOM doesnt use M16/M4, FN SCAR H, Hk 416 etc are in use.
  18. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    Indian SFs do not use INSAS, their weapon of choice is IMI Tavor, Ak-103, and other AK variants. Some might also be using FN SCAR.
  19. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    National Pride is the best thing is the best thing in the world...but false pride and refusal to accept a nations shortcomings can be even more dangerous. If INSAS was such a great rifle, why were the armed forces looking for a replacement with in 10 years? Insas was not just a rifle but a...
  20. Mark Antony

    Small arms of India

    If you surf across the internet looking for the worst rifle ever, INSAS most often comes up as the most voted rifle for that unenviable title. Most veterans who have used in COIN or other ops agree with its notoriety. INSAS represents the worst of Indian craftsmanship and engineering. We should...
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