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  1. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    Imperialism happens in two parts. 1] Destruction of existing establishment 2] Colonization Unless the second part is successful, the first part has no strategic gains for the imperial power. They can destroy but they wont get anything from it. It's not like Syria and Iraq were competing...
  2. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    This seems overrated. If they had levers, they could have managed to use them to create an overall ecosystem in Afghanistan that favors US interests at least. They had done a survey of Afghanistan before the war began. They had found Copper, Cobalt and other mines. Their companies want to...
  3. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    See these writeups, interesting stuff : https://easterncampaign.com/2007/05/13/revisiting-the-airlift-of-evil-a-blunder-via-pragmatism/ https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002/01/28/the-getaway-2
  4. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    You're right. There's some reading between the lines involved. This was mentioned in at least 3 books written by various people. There's a book by CIA employee "First In : How Seven CIA Officers Opened the War on Terror in Afghanistan", another one by B Raman "Terrorist State as a Frontline...
  5. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    US Secretly Authorizes Airlift of Pakistani and Taliban Fighters There were around 8000 total fighters airlifted. Pakistani intelligence officers were numbering only a couple of hundred. Pakistan sent 6 cargo planes for the evacuation and these planes ran to and fro flights for 2 days...
  6. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    Short fuse has come back with more rants and no facts :pound: What good faith did the USA show? Musharraf's request was pretty clear, he wanted to airlift the fighters to be used in Kashmir and the US allowed it. What else were they hoping Musharraf would transport the jihadis to? Disneyland?
  7. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    Are nahi bhai. There was reports in Indian media as well. This is not from a random intelligence officer. This was claimed by NSA Brajesh Mishra. http://www.rediff.com/us/2002/jan/24ny2.htm : India protests airlift of Pakistanis from Kunduz
  8. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    "Your facts hurt my opinions" - Your logic, basically. :pound: Let us agree that one must not ask for news citations if you are going to label 4 different media outlets as propaganda because it doesn't suit your fairytale narrative. No one is going to waste more time substantiating the claims...
  9. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    You asked for a citation, I gave you 4. It doesn't suit your fairytale worldview so now it's sensationalist propaganda. What citation are you providing to back up your claims?
  10. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    The link doesn't say Pakistan backstabbed Pakistan. It says America voluntarily helped Pakistan evacuate their fighters, and was caught lying about Pakistani backstabbing. The former is a fact, the latter is an American claim. I think a 5 year old would probably understand the difference.
  11. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    Citation 1 : http://military.wikia.com/wiki/Kunduz_airlift#cite_note-www_msnbc_com11-3 Citation 2 : US Secretly Authorizes Airlift of Pakistani and Taliban Fighters Citation 3 : https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/7373 Citation 4 : http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3340165#.Wk-Ra9-WayI
  12. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    Muricans don't understand these nuances. Their media keeps them under a spell of "they're hurting because we are hurting them". North Korea is not doing all that bad. There is abject poverty in South America and Africa. But again, Muricans can't differentiate their left ass cheek from the right...
  13. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    That 'airlift of evil' you are referring to was done with the blessing of Bush. The admission of being milked by Pakistan is an American ploy to shift blame from their own complicit. It's better for them to say "we gave aid in good faith but the Pakistanis took advantage and milked us", instead...
  14. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    http://www.news18.com/news/world/us-freezes-over-1-1-billion-security-assistance-to-pakistan-until-decisive-action-against-terror-groups-1623259.html
  15. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    The US owes money to China, but China cannot forcefully recover it because of the US military. China can however collapse the US economy through economic warfare. They have managed to achieve parity with a much stronger military power by cultivating an asymmetric economic advantage.
  16. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    The US has spent about 3 trillion $ on their Afghan excursion. Even if one leaves aside the service expenses and salaries, just the equipment alone is worth 300 billion $. Just the cargo shipping cost of removing this equipment is estimated to be around 6 billion $. They didn't come here to...
  17. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    I think their foreign minister has also commented earlier. Yesterday Pakistan summoned the US ambassador and lodged a formal protest. They have been making noises from all sides. Jihadi billi khamba noche :hail: X5
  18. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    True. This will change with the shift in economic realities. As the UK weakens, it will resort to selling out some of the strategic advantages it has cultivated over the century, in exchange for extending their illusion of being a world power for a few more years. That is why they cultivated...
  19. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    This move benefits only China because they can print as much of their own currency as they want and it is not backed in the real world by any real commodity. If one has US dollar reserves, they can buy stuff from all over the world. What does Pakistan get from stocking up on Chinese currency...
  20. Haldiram

    Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

    We all know what happens to countries which replace the dollar. Gadaffi knows it all too well.
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