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We are going to have AMCA in service before IAC 2. Or we could mail the foreign contractor offering us GaN tech the following:- IISc to get Rs 3,000-crore foundry ^credits for pic: @tsunami

There is no SEF shortfall. There is an MMRCA shortfall Buying F-35 just because it will mean a common fighter for air force and navy is absurd. It will be cheaper if Navy goes for F-18 and IAF goes for Rafale. LPD? Navy will have to order F-35B specially for them. Not sure if it is even...

LoL. No. Those cases are what ifs. Those are the only cases in which I would have considered IAF buying F-35

:shock: What!!?? AMCA was a heavy combat aircraft ??? News to me. AFAIK, there was an MCA project that morphed into the AMCA. What is your source for this news??!!

We are trying to reduce the number of different types of aircraft in IAF service. While comparing Su-30 MKI and Rafale, compare their combat radii and the power of their radars and avionics. Another fact to consider, Su-30 MKI is meant to be an Air Superiority aircraft. Rafale is multi-role, so...

Lets get something straight: IAF only categorizes its fighters as light, medium or heavy. Strictly speaking, F-35 is somewhere between light and heavy, given that it is a little smaller than AMCA and much larger than LCA. So no, F-35 is not something that is not in the same category as AMCA...

No one is offering the F-35. that too without us buying the F-16 F-35 is in same category as AMCA i.e. medium. Soits not going to be ordered as readily US is not ready to give these to us without us offering something in return. Probably not going to be offered until we sign CISMOA, which the...

Spin the bottle, Yes 10 more years of delay Yes Have they ever? I don't mean to sound pessimistic, just cracking a joke at our hopelessly dysfunctional acquisition process. :laugh:

@Mods @Kunal Biswas @Dovah @sayareakd Time to close this thread? Multiple threads create confusion. Further discussions can be at: Govt scraps single-engine fighters plan, asks IAF to go for wider competition ^Also, can we please rename the new thread as MMRCA 2.0 Hope this time MoD does...

I don't know what to think anymore. If this is a carrot so that French deliver Kaveri promise and we buy more Rafale from them, its cool. If its another attempt to get a new type of fighter into the IAF, I think MoD deserves a slap. IAF should not plan on having more than 4-5 types of...

List the squadrons that the SE MMRCA are going to equip. Also state the role they will be used in. From what you are saying it seems like you want to replace the MiG-21 with SE MMRCA. And please don't avoid this one like you avoided my previous questions. Edit: Even if you "don't know" which...

@Sancho Lets get down to Brasstacks here. The only fighters of IAF that are retiring and need replacement are MiG-21 (easily replaced by Tejas) and MiG-27. So let us talk about the MiG-27 squadrons that are supposed to get the SE MMRCA (if the deal ever happens), shall we? Flying Bullets (18...

:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2: Good job selectively answering to a few lines of my post and disregarding all else. Unlike you though, I am not going to avoid answering even a single one of your arguments. Lets begin:- "Lol"? So Joint...

I really hope someone would give the actual source who said the IAF is pushing for F-35. As far as I can tell, the author of this article is lying through his teeth, or LM is lying. They are most likely misconstruing a statement made by some IAF official. AFAIK, there is no way F-35 is coming to...

Not a word about the lack of joint planning between IAF and IA? Good way to avoid questioning the IAF on the most critical shortfall in our defence preparedness. So Brahmos and Nirbhay are not enough for interdiction, but somehow, fighter jets are? And what exactly is the state of PLAAF...

Are the Rafael not enough to replace the MiGs? So Tejas is not enough to replace MiG-27? Even after all the new PGMs and stand-off weapons in the pipeline? See, if you only want to think in terms of "we retired X fighters of a certain type and now we need to replace them with X fighters of a...

I just hope they diddle on this MMRCA long enough that Rafale is able to fill it along with AMCA in the future. I am not letting up the hope that this contest crashes and burns. IAF needs to realise that it cannot plan short-term and then keep upgrading plans in the future. IAF needs to plan to...

Any fighter (or any weapons platform, for that matter) is designed with a future-profile in mind. This allows the basic design to remain relevant in the face of fast-evolving technology. This approach allows upgrades to certain sub-systems that we see in aircraft. But this has its limits. For...

Even if they go for a single engine foreign fighter, lets hope they go for Gripen. Its a new aircraft, not like the F-16 which has already been modified beyond the original design. Gripen has a lot of room for future changes and additions. F-16, being an old fighter, has already seen those...