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fine , except the fact that india had infrastructure for rafale. we built new shelters for them . plus you forget that indian rafale deal includes 50% offset so you should also reduce a little bit of price incase of rafale. and there you have it, only little expensive than f16 but far better...

are you serious, when did i ask for report i asked for facts . 208 million dollars f16 and 230 million dollar rafale from philipphines and indian contract. rafale is better choice between the two. I wasnt talking about f35 but f16. this thread is f16 isnt it ? . as far as f35 goes it is...

please rights facts as i have written for you. it doesnt matter what is the cost price of f16 is to usa. What matters how much they are sold to foreign countries especially first time user. according to the above deal its quite clear how much f16 cost to a new user.

lets compare it with rafale deal of iaf. 230 million dollar per jet. infrastructure for 2 airbase. spares for 5 years . 50 % offset and some 700 million euro weapons pacakge. to me it looks like f16 and rafale more or less cost the same. the f16 deal doesnt include offset. FYI india is now...

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-state-dept-approves-possible-sale-f-16-fighters-missiles-philippines-pentagon-2021-06-24/ philippines to buy 12 f16s at 2.5 billion dollars with related equipments and spares includes ; 1- 24 aim9x 2- 12 harpoon 3- maybe aim120 missiles too...

if you think f16 block 70 ew or sensor fusion is as good as rafale , you are delusional. in our competition rafale had the best sensor fusion, radar and ew. it also have the best pilot impression . the same thing was said in swiss competition too. there is no secret in leaked reports. and do...

and what do you mean by clear advantage. rafale has clear advantage in terms of ew ,sensor fusion, weapons . and i think it also has clear advantage in radar too. but lets say both radar offers more or less the same capability. even then f16 will loose in both wvr and bvr fight. f16 will loose...

rafale has better radar. we did evaluate f21 with apg83. rafale can detect and track f16 at 200km. for comparison i am assusming the same for apg83, and here comes the main difference i.e. meteor missile which outranges aim120 quite easily and have much more energy in the end game than aim120...