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You are a dancing monkey, who says random things that bear no connection to any point I made. Good day to you, sir

While the T-90s don't have swivel launchers for their grenades, they have gotten new IR smoke grenades and have been fitted with APS+MAWS since 2016. I am not aware of this upgrade being applied to T-72s, however since HVF's T-90s are replacing T-72s in multiple regiments, I'm not surprised

Okay, sorry. Didn't see that

I think people like you are forgetting that all T-90s, apart from the first batch ordered from Russia, are made in India from scratch. The Bhishma is an entirely Indian made tank and upgrade package. The Bhishma is essentially equivalent - if we compare the programs - to the Vijayanta MBT, which...

Okay I really meant it when I said I wasn't going to do T-90 vs Arjun. Really. It's a headache. Let's just agree to disagree

Any smoothbore will do

This is outdated information. The Bhishma program itself is a massive upgrade. For first delivery in 2008, this would have been true. But since 2016, every T-72 and T-90 has been upgraded with new LRF, a BEL MAWS, the T-72s have gotten Polish sights (night and thermal), the T-90s were equipped...

There are tons of videos of BMPs being hit and disabled and still the crew and soldiers pouring out. That's all the matters with an IFV. The 30mm gun is excellent. The sights have been upgraded. The ATGMs attachable are excellent

I'm not going to do another Arjun vs T-90 debate. Arjun apologists just don't see the shortcomings. It's also the most tired debate in the history of military forums

Not necessarily a 125 but yeah

I mean it's like you didn't read anything I wrote

You're wrong on all counts. I mean astoundingly wrong. I don't know why you think this or where you read this information. But you're astoundingly wrong

Also the post you quoted was not the argument I made against the Arjun. I was only answering a question. This is the argument against the Arjun

I didn't actually bring up any of these points, so it's just... moot. Also the Arjun was tested against the base model T-90S, which is a shit version of the T-90A. Our T-90S has since been upgraded with an electronics suite that completely outmatches the Arjun and is on par with the T-90M...

The Arjun project was born in a time when rifled was king in the IA. The Centurions, Vijayantas, T-55s were all fitted with rifled guns and these tanks were absolute BEASTS in '65 and '71. However, by the 90s and early 2000s, the IA switched to the smoothbore of the T-72 and T-90. They have...

Neither the K21 nor the Puma are anything unique. The K21 is just a reskinned Bradley and if anything, the K21 has worse survivability as compared to both the BMP and M2. The Puma, while likely having better survivability, is just as well armed as both the M2 and the BMP. If we really want to...

Subpar gun with subpar ammunition. The gun, since it is rifled, cannot cope with the high chamber pressures required for high performance rounds, as it will destroy the rifling on the gun. The rifling on the gun also immensely reduces the service life of a single barrel which would heavily tax...

In limited numbers. Only the 45th and 90th Armoured Regiments are equipped with it. I know officers in those regiments. The 45th and 90th are almost NEVER deployed for exercises, they're never forward deployed or deployed to RAPID divisions, they're never deployed to Cold Start units (back when...

Long story short, we should move on. Arjun was good for a first attempt but it is not fit for service

I could write a book about it. Before I answer, are you an Arjun apologist?