Xinjiang eyes direct land trade with India, avoid Pakistan

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    China's Xinjiang keen to trade directly with India


    China's Muslim-dominated Xinjiang Uyghur province today made a strong pitch for opening up direct border trade with India, which is currently done through Pakistan's Rawalpindi city, citing improvement in the economic ties between the two countries.

    Xinjiang province's trade with India is currently conducted through Pakistan as there are no border posts, Shu Dagang, Vice Chairman of the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, told a media briefing here.

    Every year, Indian traders and Xinjiang businessmen meet at Rawalpindi to discuss the trade volume and items, he said answering a question.

    With the deepening of India-China ties, Xinjiang, which shares borders with Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) besides a host of central Asian states and Russia looks towards developing direct trade links between New Delhi and Kashghar, a border town in Xinjiang.

    It only takes about 50 minutes by air from New Delhi to Kashghar and the land distance between both is about 1200 km.

    "With our trade relationship deepening, this link also will be developed and promoted," Shu said.

    Relations between Xinjiang and India, which were badly hit after India-China hostilities in 1962, were looking up in recent times.

    The province's Governor Nur Bekri visited India last November with a big trade delegation to explore possibilities of stepping up direct trade between the two sides.

    Despite very close ties, the trade between Pakistan and Xinjiang is hardly $400 million, whereas the province had overall turnover of $22.8 billion with neighbouring countries last year.

    Shu, however, played down Xinjiang's concerns over cross- border terrorism from Pakistan, saying that the problem is being effectively handled through the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) in which Pakistan and India are observers.

    The 12th SCO summit will begin here tomorrow. Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari and Indian External Affairs Minister S M Krishana will be attending it.

    Xinjiang is experiencing ethnic turbulence for the past several years with the Uyghurs agitating against the increasing settlements of Han Chinese.
     
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    Excellent idea.

    But the Chinese would be dead scared of the idea!
     
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    Re: China's Xinjiang keen to trade directly with India

    Both AI and SG have been considering flying Delhi-Kashgar over the last few months. I think the latter would be more successful, as their Bombardier Dash-8 Q400s are more suited to the route. However, the government is putting pressure on AI to serve Kashgar in an attempt to strengthen India-China relations.

    One of the Chinese Majors (Air China I think...) was also considering this route.
     
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    East Turkestan trading with India. Via Indian territory of Gilgit Baltistan. Good!
     
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    East Turkestan, what Turkestan? Can we find it in map?
     
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    The above is what the Uyghur Canadian Society has indicated as to what is East Turkestan.
     
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    DFI is not Chinese mouthpiece. East Turkestan it is. Map and details as given by Ray.
     
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    You are wrong again.

    It is actually Chinese's idea! There is nothing else than money can calm people.

    Only poor people would like the idea of revolution because they got nothing to lose.
     
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    Yes ,yes we know China as lot of loose change now and we are also aware of Chinese Creative Map Drawings Skill :rofl:
     
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    Can you help to find where East Turkestan is in any world map? If you can't, then please forget such wet dream
     
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    Sorry, this is called Xinjiang. There is no place in the world named East Turkestan.

    Maybe you should educate us again since you always enjoy doing it.
     
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    Already explained by Ray. You know what it may well become an independent state thanks to your Pakistani brothers.
     
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    Jai ho!!!
     
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    Then you would feel very happy wouldn't you. But it is still a wet dream never going to happen. Instead, I may well see Xinjiang becomes a much prosperous part of China based on its unique location and its abundant resources.

    Xinjiang is not what you think it is. Muslim Uygur is just one ethnic group among many of that vast territory. Majority of them are not violent people who would risk their peaceful life to seek independence for a so called “East Turkestan” that if there is one, will be no different than those states ruled by radical Islam.

    This so called “East Turkestan”, again if there is one, may not be friend with China, but thanks to your neighbor country of the west, it may treat India even worse. I find it’s laughable some Indian members here is so keen of China’s demise whereas they forget the consequence India may face should China’s West part break out become another “stan”.
     
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    Actually, if anyone went by the Chinese definitions of areas, then there is nothing called China either.

    中國 (Traditional characters)
    中国 (Simplified characters)

    Preclassic Old Chinese: truŋ kʷǝ̄k
    Classic Old Chinese: truŋ kwǝ̄k
    Western Han Chinese: ṭǝuŋ kwǝ̄k
    Eastern Han Chinese: ṭǝuŋ kwǝ̄k
    Early Postclassic Chinese: ṭɨuŋ kwǝ̄k
    Middle Postclassic Chinese: ṭuŋ kwǝ̄k
    Late Postclassic Chinese: ṭuŋ kwǝ̄k
    Middle Chinese: ṭüŋ kwʌk

    Mandarin: zhōng guó
    Cantonese: jūng kwok
    Min Nan: diong1 gok7
    Taiwanese: tiong kok

    Tibet is also known so in Chinese, which calls it 西藏 Xī Zàng. Yet, the world calls it Tibet.
     
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    Re: China's Xinjiang keen to trade directly with India

    It is an incorrect belief that India would want China to split.

    This would not serve any purpose.

    Your point about it becoming another 'stan' is very valid.

    China, as it is, with its contradictions, is ideal since it requires China to also pay heed to the internal dissent and therefore is kept busy.

    An internally busy China is a safe China!
     
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    Re: China's Xinjiang keen to trade directly with India

    China, like India, is a country composes many ethnic groups with many potential conflict interests. Compare to India, China is in fact more stable because vast majority of Chinese are “Han”. India not only has huge population of different minorities, but also the country’s population is divided by religions. In some degree, managing India is a more daunting task than managing China. Indian members should have a little more humble and cautious sense before advocating other countries divide
     

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