Why Sri Lanka should not sign the Economic and Tecchnology Co-operative Agreement (ETCA) with India

[Rajaraja Chola]

Indian government has no balls to send Sukhois to Sri Lanka. Don't visualize cat as a lion. When India actually sent Sukhois to Sri Lanka, then we will talk.



Sri Lanka don't need Indian aid. That's the main point. Current gov. of Sri Lanka has screwed itself bad and they have no other lender to turn to. That' why they go for India. The new gov. won't be having that issue.

Moreover, Sri Lanka has accepted India aid before not because Sri Lanka really needed it but because India whined much about Chinese investments in Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka tried to appease the two giants at the same time. It's all about strategy rather than money.

Your people should thank us because we are not shooting the trespasses. If we do that the fishing problem would be end within days.

I think Lanka has quite forgotten about the 50000 houses, 2 railway lines, roads being built in the North Lanka through Indian Aid.
The main responsibility of big power is not threaten smaller powers with its military. It isnt advisable. We arent an military bully.
Your own govt has reported Chinese investments are done at a high "loan" interest than any other loan offered. Hambantota is still totering after 6-7 years of operation, and losses running high. You cannot run an project just cos someone offers you money. India can afford 15 Colombo sized ports, due to sheer size and population. Can Sri Lanka do the same?

 

[Razor]

A reminder of basics: China is rightfully part of South Asia geographically. China borders more S.Asian countries overland even than India.
China...... Afg. Pak. Ind. Nep. Bhu.
India...... Pak. Nep. Bhu. BD

Most excellent logic, sir.
So this is the new CCP line, to edge into a region.
Remember Indians let the CCP shill teach you the basics of your own region.
Keep up the good work.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

While leaning towards china, these small countries forget that they are trying to build a friend ship with a nation which wants to use them simply. They do not have any culture in common with them. They prefers to play the roll of a pawn for some money. We are the people with same culture and that identity is so strong that we all together known as Indian subcontinent. Our culture is same and we are same people. Any folly to align with a shrewd country like china shall be counter productive for them in long run.

However, If they disregard our generosity and downplay our concern in subcontinent especially strategic and economic interest than we reserve the right to protect our interest and take necessary measures which may be counter productive for them.

 

[k murali]

India’s Military Vulnerabilities against China-Pakistan Axis
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/node/1958#sthash.bRt6K493.dpuf

 

[asingh10]

So does that validate Ramayana?

Have you read the Dasratha Jataka ? It's part of the pali canon.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/j4/j4025.htm

 

[Razor]

I have no idea why people here are arguing 8000, 100000 or whatever history.

It's in OUR neigborhood. Geography is King.

Legitimate reason to interfere, if we can, when we can.

 

[bengalraider]

A reminder of basics: China is rightfully part of South Asia geographically. China borders more S.Asian countries overland even than India.
China...... Afg. Pak. Ind. Nep. Bhu.
India...... Pak. Nep. Bhu. BD

With Pakistani gateways to the Ocean and trans-Myanmar pipelines in place China is within IOR! Had there been no Indian blocking China would have been a formal member of SAARC, which is merely a talking club for now owing to India's "EFFORTS".

China ODI posts strong growth in Jan. February 16, 2016

China's non-financial outbound direct investment (ODI) in January was 18.2 percent higher than in January 2015, Ministry of Commerce (MOC) data showed on Tuesday.

Some 12.02 billion U.S. dollars of ODI came out from China last month, the MOC said in a statement.

The year-on-year increase accelerated from a 6.1-percent rise in December and was also faster than the annual growth of 14.7 percent in 2015.

The MOC attributed the growth largely to investment in the manufacturing sector, which soared nearly 90 percent year on year to 1.62 billion dollars in January.

Chinese local enterprises contributed 92.5 percent of the total ODI in January, up from a share of 66.4 percent in 2015, with their outbound investment surging 175 percent year on year.

Big overseas mergers and acquisitions boosted the ODI growth. For example, hydropower giant China Three Gorges last month paid about 3.7 billion dollars for the rights to operate two hydropower plants in Brazil for 30 years.

The United States was one of the most popular investment destinations for Chinese companies, whose ODI in the country nearly quadrupled from a year earlier to 1.6 billion dollars in January.

Investment in the United States is expected to maintain fast growth this year, the MOC said.

China's outbound investment ranks as the world's third biggest in flow and and the eighth in terms of stock.

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When India talks, China delivers!

When the competition gets fierce, join up with a natural ally (of development).

Historically and geographically speaking China is by your own idiotic definition a part of the Japanese island chain, the Korean peninsula, Russia , Mongolia, south east Asia and Taiwan.
I mean if bordering an area is everything then China might as well call itself a part of East Europe because of the vast land border it shares with Russia.

Now for the real basics, regions are divided on the basis of real physical dividers.
The Atlantic is the divider between the European Continent and Americas, the Pacific lies between the Americas and Asia, the Urals lie between Europe and Asia and the Red sea Divides Africa from Asia.Similarly the Himalayas are the Barrier dividing Asia from the Subcontinent.
China can border all she wants but she isn't a part of South Asia Geographically .
India does have a lot to learn from China on the development front, both positive things like the rapid development of infrastructure & the creation of a business friendly policy and from the current free fall mistakes China is making now.There is a reason why China's outbound investment has increased exponentially and it's not because China is awesome.
China is bleeding money it's foreign exchange reserves outflows last year crossed 800$bil and this does not show any chance of slowing. With more than 5-6 million job losses predicted in the coal sector and some 400,000 jobs to be lost in the steel sector alone all is not as hunky dory with the Chinese economic model as you may think. Very recently Moody's has also cut the rating of China to negative and advised against investment in China, that may explain why your businessmen are putting their money overseas. I personally had the chance to meet Mr Wang Jianlin last year ( nothing much just exchanged pleasantries) he too is pulling money outside China and plans to invest upto 20$billion in India . China knows it needs economic integration with India to make the CPEC work as well. The Myanmar Junta that did the bidding of Zhongnanhai is now giving way to a western oriented democracy as well.
Overall It does seem that while India talks China delivers, but China delivers by poisoning rivers, demolishing villages and riding roughshod over everything. India delivers slowly but without any conflict and with the complete participation of the local community , such deliveries last longer my friend!

 

[garg_bharat]

India’s Military Vulnerabilities against China-Pakistan Axis
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/node/1958#sthash.bRt6K493.dpuf

One can construct a lot of theoretical scenarios where one side wins or the other side wins. Reality of war is always different and hits in the face when war actually occurs.

War is unpredictable at best.

 

[HeinzGud]

Have you read the Dasratha Jataka ? It's part of the pali canon.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/j4/j4025.htm

So? What are you implying? Does it validate Ramayana?

 

[garg_bharat]

What useless discussion?

Go hang your president from a tree who made the agreement.

Goddamn banana republic.

 

[HeinzGud]

I think Lanka has quite forgotten about the 50000 houses, 2 railway lines, roads being built in the North Lanka through Indian Aid.
The main responsibility of big power is not threaten smaller powers with its military. It isnt advisable. We arent an military bully.
Your own govt has reported Chinese investments are done at a high "loan" interest than any other loan offered. Hambantota is still totering after 6-7 years of operation, and losses running high. You cannot run an project just cos someone offers you money. India can afford 15 Colombo sized ports, due to sheer size and population. Can Sri Lanka do the same?

The peculiar thing is that India always pours money into the North of Sri Lanka as if it's not belong to the rest of the island. Anyhow Railway lines and roads are built on Indian loans not with Indian aid.

Current gov. of Sri Lanka is lying outright. Chinese loans are not taken with "higher" interest rates. BTW H'tota port is functioning smoothly. There is no issue with that port. Sri Lanka built H'tota port because it was appropriate thing to do.

 

[HeinzGud]

It simply refutes your statement. Ramayna is as valid as Gautam Buddha/ Jesus, Mohammed, Alexander, Chandragupta Maurya, etc are. That is authenticity of realy ancient history is verified by existence of places mentioned in texts, along with verification of any salient features.

So where is Ravana's Lanka? Please elaborate with facts.

 

[HeinzGud]

It's the burden of big brother, just as most of Europe hates the Germans for being better than them economically and militarily, or most of North America has a love hate relationship with the Americans in the same vein, or South Africa & Egypt in the African Continent So are India and China fated to be hated by their immediate neighbors in Asia. But little do the Haters realize that just as the Philippines can do nothing but look on as China usurps the SCS, the subcontinent has no choice but to look to India for Economic growth and integration.This Gap will only increase, Sri Lanka for example has roughly the same PPP GDP as Mumbai alone, no matter what @HeinzGud or anyone else thinks the simple economic truth is that Sri Lanka cannot survive without economic integration with India.

Sri Lanka has survived for the past 50 years without any economic integration with India. So why do we need it now?

 

[HeinzGud]

If your government felt our movies were an invasion, they could simply pass a law making it illegal to screen Bollywood movies. Clearly, the fact that they haven't done it means there is no popular sentiment against those movies. Or let me put it this way, let's say you want to stop screening those movies, what's the process/hurdle that's stopping you from doing it? Sri Lanka is a democracy, after all.

Do you even know what is cultural invasion is? Please go and read a little.

 

[HeinzGud]

I have no idea why people here are arguing 8000, 100000 or whatever history.

It's in OUR neigborhood. Geography is King.

Legitimate reason to interfere, if we can, when we can.

Show me one example where India interfere with other country's affairs openly. Just give me one example.

 

[Razor]

I have no idea why people here are arguing 8000, 100000 or whatever history.

It's in OUR neigborhood. Geography is King.

Legitimate reason to interfere, if we can, when we can.

Show me one example where India interfere with other country's affairs openly. Just give me one example.

Do you know what happened in '71 ?

Listen you be chini bitch all you want. But don't forget which neighborhood you are in.

We'll flush out that turd look-alike island of yours, if necessary.

If the north indians don't have the balls, the south indians will.

 

[maomao]

Sri Lanka should hand over it self to India or China! The way it's moving ahead makes one sure that it will be a Vassal state of one power or the other. So choice is Sri Lanka's - with whom they want to go. China will surely make a Xingjiang out of SL, however India can make SL a Bhutan!! Your choice eventually, you will be gobbled up by China with their debt so what do you wanna do?

 

[HeinzGud]

Do you know what happened in '71 ?

Listen you be chini bitch all you want. But don't forget which neighborhood you are in.

We'll flush out that turd look-alike island of yours, if necessary.

If the north indians don't have the balls, the south indians will.

Yeah what happened in 1971? Come one tell us a little. South Indians don't even have a p**sy. If they did they should have separated from Indian union long ago. Sri Lanka has no time for failures.

 

[Razor]

Yeah what happened in 1971? Come one tell us a little. South Indians don't even have a p**sy. If they did they should have separated from Indian union long ago. Sri Lanka has no time for failures.

Don't forget who conquered you repeadetedly over the centuries.

Go do what you do best you little turdlet, whore yourself to the chini.

 

[AnantS]

So where is Ravana's Lanka? Please elaborate with facts.

Where is Lanka in this world? Please let me know