Who is best in mountain warfare? India or China?

[Adux]

The best way to protect Indian North east is to invade Tibet. We are not going to achieve that with this paltry number of C-17's and Airborne troops. We should be looking at Multiple divisions of airborne troops and multiple squadrons of Heavy Transports.

 

[Iamanidiot]

China has one advantage over India.

They don't care how many die for their Revolution!

They have enough under the category of 'Manpower' and is catered for in their WWR.

Sir your friend always says the days of deng are over the ccp must have to answer a lot to mothers who have lost their only kids in a war.The days of korean war type are over for china .In short the PLA has no more unlimited manpower

 

[Iamanidiot]

The best way to protect Indian North east is to invade Tibet. We are not going to achieve that with this paltry number of C-17's and Airborne troops. We should be looking at Multiple divisions of airborne troops and multiple squadrons of Heavy Transports.

This takes the cake budd not happening

 

[sandeepdg]

We have highly trained mountain troops like the Ladakh scouts, SFF etc. but what we don't have is substantial airlift capacity, paltry number of artillery without which there's not much we can do other than scale mountain passes in Northwest Himalayas on foot, and that will be extremely difficult.

 

[p2prada]

We will get murdered in Tibet. Best to stay within the mountains and harass them. We merely have to deny them entry into Tawang. It does not matter who wins or losses as long as we keep them on their side of the border. We can bloat it up using mass media. A Bloody nose is good enough.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

1. Battle of Walong

2. Battle of Rezang La

3. Battle of Kumaon Hill

4. Operation Meghdoot

5. Opeartion Vijay

 

[Kunal Biswas]

India have enough Airborne assets to conduct air assault operations, IAF logistical support is very good in Arunachal also Ladak region, All major peaks are under Indian control, During 1987 it was proved to be successful..

In defense we are good, In Offense mainly as a counter attack IA have new battle plans..
2 mountain strike corp are mainly based on these plans, Where as Defending forces is different..

 

[hit&run]

In modern warfare once you defeat them in Air then number of troops on the ground becomes irrelevant. This is what has happened in two Iraq wars, this is what has made Chinese rethink what they were planning before i.e using troops as cannon fodder. Getting Murdered by PLA in Tibet is just an over statement of a mind who thinks InA will be struggling at the Plateau in Isolation. InA chief would be an absent minded if he would do it i.e move in without air cover, and i am sure he is not.
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My 2 cents.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

How many know abt 1967 & 87 ?

Operation Falcon
Chola incident

 

[Iamanidiot]

Kunal Babu any idea about the Units deployed by the PLA.Their name,brigades formations?

 

[Adux]

India have enough Airborne assets to conduct air assault operations, IAF logistical support is very good in Arunachal also Ladak region, All major peaks are under Indian control, During 1987 it was proved to be successful..

In defense we are good, In Offense mainly as a counter attack IA have new battle plans..
2 mountain strike corp are mainly based on these plans, Where as Defending forces is different..

NO, Have you read Gen.Sundarji's vision 2000? Do you know how much of that is a reality and how much is not. India's logistical footprint in North East is terrible, as we can see from all news report, we dont even have a airborne division. No we are not a airborne capable nation.

 

[Iamanidiot]

The Chinese have the 15th ABC which is directly under the CMC

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Kunal Babu any idea about the Units deployed by the PLA.Their name,brigades formations?

Chengdu Military Region:

The military districts that fall within the Chengdu Military Region are:

• Sichuan Provincial Military District
• Tibet Military District
• Guizhou Provincial Military District

PLA Army Units in Chengdu Military Region


2.1.3.1 13th Group Army
|——2nd Army Aviation Regiment
|——37th Mortorized Infantry Division
|
|——149th Mountain Mechanized Infantry Division
|
|——Artillery Brigade
|
|——Armor Brigade
|
|——AA-Gun Air Defense Brigade




2.1.3.2 14th Group Army
|——40th Infantry Division:|——18th Artillery Regiment
|
|——31st Mechanized Infantry Division
|
|——4th Artillery Brigade
|
|——Armor Brigade
|
|——149th Motorised Infantry Division



2.1.3.3 Tibetan Military District
|——52nd Mountain Brigade
|
|——53rd Mountain Brigade9th Border Defense Regiment
|
|——10th Border Defense Regiment
|
|——11th Border Defense Regiment
|
|——12th Border Defense Regiment



2.1.3.4 Yunnan Military District
|——9th Border Defense Regiment
|
|——10th Border Defense Regiment
|
|——11th Border Defense Regiment
|
|——12th Border Defense Regiment



[h=2]Lanzhou Military Region[/h]
[h=2]PLA Army Units in Lanzhou Military Region[/h]

[h=3]2.1.5 PLA Army Units in Lanzhou Military Region[/h]
[h=3]2.1.5.1 21st Group Army
|——61st high-land Mortorized Infantry Division
|
|——12th Armor Division
|
|——19th Artillery Brigade
|
|——Air Defense Brigade[/h]

[h=3]2.1.5.2 47th Group Army
|——139th Mechanized Infantry Brigade
|
|——6th Artillery Brigade
|
|——Armor Brigade
|
|——55th high-land Infantry Brigade
|
|——56th high-land Infantry Brigade[/h]


[h=3]2.1.5.3 Xinjiang Military District
|——4th Independant Mortorized Infantry Division
|
|——6th Mechanized Infantry Division
|
|——8th Independant Mortorized Infantry Division
|
|——11th Independant Mortorized Infantry Division
|
|——2nd Independant Artillery Brigade
|
|——13th Independant AA-gun Air Defense Brigade[/h]







Besides this you have:

[h=2]PLA rapid reaction units (RRU) 15th Airborne Corps & 3XSF brigades..[/h]http://defenceforumindia.com/military-analysis/17029-pla-rapid-reaction-units-rru-read-first.html

 

[Iamanidiot]

Kunal Babu post more about the stuff on the Chinese side.Any Missile strike force in Tibet deployed against India

 

[agentperry]

what ever they may have.... GOD IS ON OUR SIDE

 

[Kunal Biswas]

NO, Have you read Gen.Sundarji's vision 2000? Do you know how much of that is a reality and how much is not. India's logistical footprint in North East is terrible, as we can see from all news report, we dont even have a airborne division. No we are not a airborne capable nation.

Blind folded shouting doesn't help, Do a little bit research before, Wont take much time..

IAF doing a great job in N.E and J&K, Roads are horrible, But Trucks do their part..

Ever heard Paras of Indian army ? Do you know what is the strength of Indian army size Battalion and Division ?

Indian army have 13-15 battalions of Paras, Fully equipped and 7 or more of them are SF paras sum of total is 20,000 men approx..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Kunal Babu post more about the stuff on the Chinese side.Any Missile strike force in Tibet deployed against India

They haven't deployed yet but soon they will, On Indian side we placed specialized PJ-10s..

I have made a good thread, Hope you get every thing you need to know, I will add more soon..

http://defenceforumindia.com/military-analysis/16694-pla-vs-indian-army-lac-read-first.html

 

[Iamanidiot]

kunal has the IA studied the War zone campaign in any amount of detail to devise a counter to it .Those conventional missiles on a brigade HQ ir pretty bad

 

[Kunal Biswas]

kunal has the IA studied the War zone campaign in any amount of detail to devise a counter to it .Those conventional missiles on a brigade HQ ir pretty bad

IA is master, We all are kids

Their is lot we have done in past in present, IA knows what he is doing, Their are things i dont know, And some i dont like to be public, Cruise missile shield was always their but that shield can be broken in some instance and their are countermeasure too for such situations. .

I will update if i got more info on it..

 

[Iamanidiot]

the PLA is trying to create an officer corps