Discussion in 'Indian Army' started by ashdoc, Dec 15, 2011.
7 . 62 mm or 5 . 56 mm ??
Am I allowed to choose 23 mm?
Love this baby, ZU-23:
Being a civvie and having never fought a battle but only shot in the shooting range, I prefer 7.62x39mm.
How many Indians here really fired a gun in the first place?
Difficult to say, but good question. Let's start with you. Have you fired a gun?
Might have might not have but the point is getting a gun licence itself is exceedingly difficult unlike in US where you can legally own guns
Strange you don't know or cannot recall whether you ever shot a gun, especially since you are asking how many here have shot a gun! Air-guns don't count, if that helps you answer.
Pmaitra my point is most might not have ever seen a gun and most will have nothing to say about the topic
Sorry buddy, just a light hearted leg pulling. Don't mind me.
Just to bring in some clarity in a light-hearted way.
Does Diwali gun count?
No, but that gun that Ray Sir pointed out definitely does.
although i have my own ak47, i prefer 5.56x45mm i.e SS109 ammunition.
I am an INDIAN & i have fired following weapons : 1ouble B
2: streling 9mm
3: INSAS 5.56mm
& the guns i inspected but never fired are 1:SLR
2: 9mm bratta(although i am not sure )
Your double barrel is very happy for some reason.
I have shot somewhat comparable 9mm Shorty.
INSAS, Please tell me how you felt about it. Also, is there any way civvies can get to shoot it? I've always wanted to shoot that one.
FN-FAL, a very good rifle. I have not shot this one. I have been trained on and can disassemble or assemble a Bren LMG.
You mean Beretta? That is a very famous one.
What is rifles and what is a gun
One is for shooting and other for fun
suffiicient to produce a man
who could call himself son of a gun
Weighs more than a ton
makes a loud noise but scares none.
Rifles means screw
Gun is but sphurious brew
When it comes to work, it is shun and shun
Which caliber do you prefer in an automatic rifle ??
Wrong question !
which rifle do you mean?
Assault Rifle ?
Or any other rifle?
Good poem, but the emboldened portion is wrong.
A rifle is a gun but a gun may or may not be a rifle.
A gun with a barrel that has spiralling grooves inside to cause the bullet to spin is a rifle. Look at the 'screw' part, but not sure in what sense it was meant. Both are for shooting and both can be fun!
Now what would an artillery piece which is called a Gun, but which has rifling, be called?
I would say that while it is correct that a rifle is a gun, but because the infantry no longer uses guns which do not have rifling, it maybe correct to call the infantry 'gun' as rifles since that is the closest to description!
Just a thought!
1: you mean heavy ? yes its is all it has is a heavy barrel due to old technology in metallurgy ,we have one of some tusker brand , if you hold it for the first time its fees little heavy but once you get use to it you don't feel the weight .
3:Insas was awesome experience i fired around some 9 rounds on single shot mode & 6 rounds on burst mode. The jerk while firing was not not that much as i was expecting . the 3 rounds per burst was good one then only i felt the back word jerk . Civilians are allowed in few occasions to fire the guns at army ranges when they organize demonstrations sort of things but i got to fire the INSAS & Carbine because of my Father's unit
5: i don't know if its was Beretta or not as i was told its an Italian made & my interest was on checking INSAS so i never bothered to check the markings on the hand gun.
In the Indian military context, I would feel that an assault rifle and squad rifle would be the same.
CQB would be more in terms of the SMC variety.
Sniper rifle is a category by itself since it is for specialised purpose.
The rationale that suggest the type of weapon a person is authorised is dependant on his task.
Those who have to move around or are carrying other weapons like the Platoon Mortar, MMGs etc are normally equipped with lighter personal weapons.
Those who have to assault are equipped with personal weapons that kill and heavier.
Automatic weapons are not recommended and instead semi automatics are, is because of the constraints of ammunition carriage and resupply.
Unlike foreign western armies, who do not have to operate in mountains or high altitude, the majority of the Indian army has to. Carriage on man and resupply of ammunition become problematic. Hence, one cannot 'poop off' ammunition. Each round is valuable in weight and resupply terms and so accuracy, efficiency in fire control and conservation plays a major role.
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