US position on Japan island dispute a betrayal

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  1. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    US position on Japan island dispute a 'betrayal': China

    Veiled US warnings to Beijing not to challenge Japan's control of disputed islands encouraged Tokyo's "dangerously right-leaning" government and "betrayed" Washington's vow of neutrality, Chinese state media said Saturday.

    The comments came as Japan's coastguard said three Chinese government ships had entered Japanese territorial waters around the islands, known as the Senkaku in Japanese and the Diaoyu in Chinese.

    US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Friday said the area around the islands in the East China Sea was under Japan's control and therefore protected under a US security treaty with Tokyo.

    Speaking at a joint news conference with Japanese Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida in Washington, and without mentioning Beijing directly, she said the US opposed "any unilateral actions" to undermine Japanese authority over the islands.

    But in a commentary piece, the official Chinese news agency Xinhua criticised Washington's position, saying it "cast doubts on (US) credibility as a responsible power in the region".

    It was "unwise" for Washington "to throw support behind Japan in Tokyo's islands dispute with Beijing", Xinhua said, adding: "This unbalanced position has betrayed its declared intention to stay neutral on the issue."

    The US proposal for "tighter military alliance with Japan will only encourage Tokyo's dangerously right-leaning tendency", Xinhua said.

    But Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Qin Gang was quoted by the agency as saying that Beijing "has always advocated to resolve issues between relevant countries through bilateral dialogue and by peaceful means".

    Three Chinese government surveillance vessels sailed in waters around the disputed islands Saturday for nearly five hours but had all left Japanese waters by 1:52 pm (0452 GMT), the Japan coastguard said.

    China has repeatedly sailed into the waters since Japan nationalised the chain in September, a move that triggered anger and demonstrations in China.

    The United States insists it is neutral on the ultimate sovereignty of the islands.

    "We want to see China and Japan resolve this matter peacefully through dialogue," Clinton said Friday.

    "We do not want to see any action taken by anyone that could raise tensions or result in miscalculation that would undermine the peace, security and economic growth in this region."

    China has persistently criticised the US position and the sending of maritime surveillance ships to the potentially gas-rich area is seen by experts as a way to contest the notion that Japan holds effective control.

    China ships in waters around disputed islands: Japan
    Tokyo (AFP) Jan 19, 2013 - Three Chinese government ships Saturday entered Japanese territorial waters around disputed islands, Japan's coastguard said, hours after a veiled US warning to Beijing not to challenge Tokyo's control.

    The surveillance vessels sailed in waters around the islands known as the Senkakus in Japan and Diaoyus in China for nearly five hours, the coastguard said.

    The vessels had all left Japanese waters by 1:52 pm (0452 GMT) and were travelling away from the East China Sea islands, which are controlled by Tokyo but claimed by Beijing, a coastguard official said.

    China has repeatedly sailed into the waters since Japan nationalised the chain in September, a move that triggered anger and demonstrations in China.

    US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, speaking at a joint news conference with Japanese Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida in Washington on Friday, said the disputed area was under Japan's administration and hence protected under a US security treaty with Tokyo.

    "We oppose any unilateral actions that would seek to undermine Japanese administration," Clinton said.

    Clinton did not mention Beijing directly but said: "We want to see China and Japan resolve this matter peacefully through dialogue."

    "We do not want to see any action taken by anyone that could raise tensions or result in miscalculation that would undermine the peace, security and economic growth in this region," she added.

    The United States insists it is neutral on the ultimate sovereignty of the islands.

    China has repeatedly criticised the US position and the sending of maritime surveillance ships to the potentially gas-rich area is seen by experts as a way to contest the notion that Japan holds effective control.

    Kishida took a measured tone on China, describing the relationship with Beijing as "one of the most important" for Japan.

    "While Japan will not concede and will uphold our fundamental positions that the Senkaku islands are an inherent territory of Japan, we intend to respond calmly so as not to provoke China," Kishida said.
     
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    Who says the Japanese betrayed?

    They did what they had to do.

    But then, yes, then the US threat must have baulked China and stopped them in their track leaving China impotent.

    Naturally for the Chinese ii became essential to conjure silly imagination charged reasons to save face.
     
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    Temper tantrum when they dont get their way,,, they better get use to it.
     
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    The US would have betrayed Japan if it didn't stand by it
     
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    China was hoping being part of the P5 would give them leverage and it didn't.
    They have abused the P5 position to start border and water disputes all over
    Asia.
     
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    I know India is working hard to to get a seat in the "P5". But I don't see any relationships between the China's permanent membership of the security council and these recent disputes.

     
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    China abuses it's P5 position. India's quest is a whole different issue that India
    does not take too seriously.
     
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    Another "India can" story? Could you point out where China abuses its permanent seat in the island disputes?
     
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    One good example is Sudan/Darfur many others exist and should not be hard to find.
     
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    Don't jump to another topic when we are discussing the island disputes. You said "They have abused the P5 position to start border and water disputes all over
    Asia" and I asked you to provide examples. Now you bring Sudan/Darfur into this discussion.

    If you told us "a good example should not be hard to find", then post one where "China abused the P5 in the island disputes", ok?

     
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    china has territorial disputes all it's neighbors can you name one neighbor where it
    dosen't??
     
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    That's the way how you debate?
     
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    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    Simple question.
     
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    Lets do a head count of Chinese neighbours with territorial issues: Japan, Phillipines, Indonesia, India, Taiwan, Russia, South Korea; pretty much anybody with a common border :taunt1:
     
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    Most of these disputes became more clear with Chinese economic rise their territorial
    greed also rose.
     
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    Yeah Chinese claims are nationalistic. They supposedly ruled these islands hundreds of years ago. If we use that argument, we will have all of Af-Pak and Indonesia under our rule!!!
     
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    You can also add Central Asia to that.
     
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    This topic has been discussed over and over here. No need to begin another one.
     
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    You can't support your own statements and just jump to other topics. Classic.
     

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