Two Military Engineering Service staff arrested for passing Army secrets to Pakistan

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  1. nrj

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    MOGA (PUNJAB): Two employees of Military Engineering Service (MES) have been arrested on the charges of spying army secrets to Pakistan, Faridkot district police said on Sunday.

    Details of artillery installations and a mobile phone on which they allegedly used to provide information about army installations to Pakistan have been recovered from them after their arrest last evening, senior superintendent of police Satpal Singh said.

    He said both the accused identified as plumber Leela Ram and mason Bhola Singh - posted atFaridkot Cantonment for over 25 years - confessed before the police that they had their links in Pakistan and were providing information regarding Army installations.

    In reply to a question, the SSP made it clear that it was not yet established whether both the accused were having their links with Pakistan's ISI, but it was established that the two were providing military secrets to that country.

    The SSP also said a book containing detailed information about an artillery school was recovered from their possession.

    In reply to another query, Singh claimed that Faridkot police had on the basis of its own information arrested the accused.

    Terming the matter as highly sensitive, police were not ready to disclose further information, maintaining that investigations were under progress.

    The SSP also said police had recovered a mobile from the Leela Ram and its SIM card was under scrutiny and all other information regarding his contacts in Pakistan will be clear once the police have full details.

    Two Military Engineering Service staff arrested for passing Army secrets to Pakistan - The Times of India
     
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    If treason is established they must hang it's as simple as that!However one must also try to find out since when the duo was passing secrets to Pakistan and if the same has only recently started then the reason why someone with over 25yrs of service in the forces would sellout to the enemy1
     
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    True. There has to be harshest punishment for such activities. That will only establish terror among traitors. That way they'll fear for their life before indulging in any anti-national activities.
     
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    How did the Pakistani agencies or whatever manage to get a connection with these MES ????
    point to ponder about
     
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    both agencies try to get a hold of men in other's army. they lure them various means. sometimes trap them too.
    serious thing is that they are not fresh blood who have breached the entry but they are old guys. 25 yrs of service.

    moreover many a times people in army put treason charges on their juniors who object to the loot some seniors do. corruption is rampant in MES and whistle blowers are most of the time put behind bar with treason charges because under such cases rationality is kept in locker and people chant only death!!!

    if they are not connected to isi then which pakistan agency is involved in it. pak army itself??? if they had blown the trumpet of nabbing moles then they should have done this by catching them red handed. so the middleman must have been there with the convicts.
     
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    Before you hang them

    The duo were supervised by somebody. The organization should examine how they had access to classified information.
     
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    It is very sad that people will do anything like this for few bundles of money.

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    When information like artillery formation & performance characteristics is exposed, it calls for re-arranging every related secret. A very troublesome activity.
     
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    There are other inducements as well. Is there information on the motivation?

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    Absolutely true.
     
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    One guy is plumber in installation. No info on the other one. Most of the times poverty pushes these people to do something like this.

    For now police & military not disclosing anything. They'll prefer to keep it that way. I doubt we'll hear anything further.
     
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    Does not matter what their motivation was - passing military secrets to the enemy is treason of the worst kind.

    Court Martial and firing squad - that's what it should be. In plain view of other soldiers and staff - so that it becomes a cautionary tale for the rest of the servicemen.

    Also, need to find out who their other contacts/ fellow cronies might be.
     
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    Will there be a trial?

    If they are guilty, knowing how they were turned, and as you say, discovering who their their controllers were is necessary.

    If they are civilian employees of the IA, does the law allow for court-martial and death by shooting?
     
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    I am not even sure IA has any death sentence by shooting, or if it has, if it has been used EVER.

    For civilians employed by IA, there are indeed no court martial - but they should be then subjected to state secrets act, anti-terrorist act and whatnot.

    In my opinion, the sentence should still be death. Maybe by hanging.


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    After a little research - India does have death by shooting for Court Martials.
     
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    Guys may be they were dalits or shroders...
    may be Thats their biggest crime..
    common they are not isi personels...
     
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    What do you mean by Dalits ??

    Dalits are as Hindus as any other. Stop posting idiotic comment if you don't have to contribute anything better.

    There are few traitors everywhere. It's nothing to relate with Caste, Colour and Religion.

    I am sure, Pakistan has more traitor that ours. This is exceptional case.

    Altaf Hussain - Partition was Biggest blunder in history of mankind :cb:
     
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    partition was the biggest mistake by muslims of subcontinent and that is true for me...
    But dont align those peoples with isi. thats indian establishment internal problems and they want to malign them because of their internal conflicts.
    The best we come up with to align people with another agencies.
     
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    What you guys fighting for?

     
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    First let us punish harshest terrorists harshly(i.e kasab,afzal guru,murugan,santhan ) ,do you think this spine less congress has guts to take action?
     
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    Thats OT.

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    Both cases are different. Traitors here will be dealt by military court while kasab is being handled by special court with civilian codes of practice.

    You'll find shorter time window between conviction & punishment in military courts.

    Do spineless(?) successive govts have courage to go ahead making exceptions & fast tracking capital punishments who attacked country & are convicted? List is very long. Kasab, afzal,murugan,santhan,Perarivalan. You need reforms in punishment mechanisms of justice department.
     

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