To counter China, Parrikar rushes to BD

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To counter China, government rushing defence minister Manohar Parrikar to Bangladesh

Rajat Pandit | TNN | Updated: Nov 16, 2016, 09.26 AM IST

NEW DELHI: India is dispatching defence minister Manohar Parrikar to Dhaka later this month to chalk out a major upgrade in bilateral defence cooperation in the backdrop of China continuing to expand its strategic footprint in Bangladesh.

Government sources said on Tuesday that a new defence cooperation framework, which will lead to stepped-up military supplies, technology transfer, training and joint exercises as well as closer cooperation in counter-terrorism, will be discussed during Parrikar's two-day visit to Bangladesh from November 30.

"It is likely to be inked when Bangladesh PM Sheikh Hasina visits India in December. Incidentally, Parrikar will be the first Indian defence minister to visit Bangladesh in years," said a source.

The visit comes soon after Bangladesh took delivery of its first-ever submarines from China on Monday. The two diesel-electric submarines, handed over to Bangladesh Navy chief Admiral Mohammad Nizamuddin Ahmed at the Dalian seaport of Liaoning province in China, is a big indicator of the extensive military ties being forged between Dhaka and Beijing.

In mid-October, Xi Jinping also became the first Chinese president in 30 years to visit Bangladesh, which led to 27 deals worth $25 billion being inked. India, of course, can neither match China's economic muscle nor its domestic defence industrial base.

But India is trying to counter China's inroads into its neighbourhood, ranging from Sri Lanka, Maldives, Seychelles and Mauritius to Bangladesh, Myanmar and Nepal. Apart from supplying air defence guns, radars and mine-protected vehicles to Sri Lanka, for instance, India is also constructing two naval offshore patrol vessels (OPVs) for the island nation now.

"Similarly, India can supply OPVs to Bangladesh through innovative financing mechanisms. The training of Bangladeshi personnel in Indian military establishments will also be increased under the overall capacity-building," said the source.

The sixth edition of the India-Bangladesh joint military exercise "Sampriti" is also currently underway at Tangail in Dhaka. "With the focus being on counter-terrorism, the exercise will boost interoperability between the two armies. Regular naval and air force exercises will also be on the agenda now," said the source.

India's ties with Bangladesh are certainly once again on upward trajectory now under Sheikh Hasina's leadership. The two have backed each other on terrorist attacks on their soils, with Dhaka supporting New Delhi's stand on boycotting the SAARC summit+ in Islamabad.

India was also relieved at Bangladesh's move to scrap China's bid to construct the Sonadia deep-sea port at Cox's Bazaar earlier this year. But China has several other projects underway in Bangladesh, which also supports the former's "One Belt, One Road" initiative.

India, on its part, has actively worked towards bolstering ties with Bangladesh over the last three-four years, with one of the main objectives being the need for the two to `resolutely' tackle terrorism together.

India has also been holding direct Army-to-Army staff talks with Bangladesh since 2009. The importance of the talks can be gauged from the fact that India has similar staff talks with just a handful of countries, which include US, UK, Israel, France, Japan, Australia, Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore.



http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-defence-cooperation/articleshow/55444098.cms
 

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India, on its part, has actively worked towards bolstering ties with Bangladesh over the last three-four years, with one of the main objectives being the need for the two to `resolutely' tackle terrorism together.

India was also relieved at Bangladesh's move to scrap China's bid to construct the Sonadia deep-sea port at Cox's Bazaar earlier this year. But China has several other projects underway in Bangladesh, which also supports the former's "One Belt, One Road" initiative.
To replace moribund SAARC there shall be an alternative mechanism. Don't forget China is also an South Asian country.

Why has BD danced to India's music to scrap Chinese port project, considering China's capacity and experience in port construction?? Isn't BD an independent state?

China, Malaysia look to co-build harbor at Malacca Strait

Everyone recognizes port infrastructures as a big stimulus to development.
 

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To replace moribund SAARC there shall be an alternative mechanism. Don't forget China is also an South Asian country.

Why has BD danced to India's music to scrap Chinese port project, considering China's capacity and experience in port construction?? Isn't BD an independent state?

China, Malaysia look to co-build harbor at Malacca Strait

Everyone recognizes port infrastructures as a big stimulus to development.
We have been wanting to award this to China from the 80's. However, that would upset India which will see this as a Chinese ingress into SA. The Americans were also v v keen to do this. Dick Cheney's Halliburton even maintain a project office in Chittagong for years. But people were up in arms against that. They eventually packed up and moved to Basra Port.
 

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To replace moribund SAARC there shall be an alternative mechanism. Don't forget China is also an South Asian country.
China is not south Asian country. Its technically more of a East Asian country, like according to your point of view, why isn't Afghanistan considered as middle east while it is considered as central asian ? And why isn't Afghanistan called as Arabian nation ?
The point that you're making is useless, Just because china has borders with South Asian nations, doesn't mean its south asian nation.
 

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Everyone recognizes port infrastructures as a big stimulus to development.
China is not building the port, does not mean that port is not going to be built, there are much more experienced and better building partners in the world, that won't try to create a naval base or berthing place.
 

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China is not building the port, does not mean that port is not going to be built, there are much more experienced and better building partners in the world, that won't try to create a naval base or berthing place.
China would be the best. They have long experience of working in port projects in BD beside building many bridges. Many Chinese companies have been here since the 80's. They have good local knowledge. And the most important factor: no one could beat them in terms.
 

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Chinese project funding statements and MOUs are not a predictor of what actually happens. For example Xi came to India and promised USD 75 billions. But on the ground the amount that has been invested is less than 0.5 billion. Similarly Xi offered $25 billion to Bangladesh a few weeks ago. If any of that money does show up it will be at punitive interest rates and will involve sovereign guarantees from Bangladesh. Project profits will Never succeed in paying Chinese interest, forget about principal. The overpriced, high interest 'investment' in Sri Lanka is a case in point.

Chinese investments, if they do materialize, are designed to keep the receiving country poor, and to keep Chinese factories humming and labor employed. Corruption and kickbacks are also involved.
 

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Chinese project funding statements and MOUs are not a predictor of what actually happens. For example Xi came to India and promised USD 75 billions. But on the ground the amount that has been invested is less than 0.5 billion. Similarly Xi offered $25 billion to Bangladesh a few weeks ago. If any of that money does show up it will be at punitive interest rates and will involve sovereign guarantees from Bangladesh. Project profits will Never succeed in paying Chinese interest, forget about principal. The overpriced, high interest 'investment' in Sri Lanka is a case in point.

Chinese investments, if they do materialize, are designed to keep the receiving country poor, and to keep Chinese factories humming and labor employed. Corruption and kickbacks are also involved.
We know the Chinese since 1975 in BD. And in Pakistan before that. Our experience of their dealings, sincerity and funding is quite the opposite. That is why we look for China before any other source when undertaking a project.
 

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China would be the best. They have long experience of working in port projects in BD beside building many bridges. Many Chinese companies have been here since the 80's. They have good local knowledge. And the most important factor: no one could beat them in terms.
Then why did you cancel the chinese port project ? You should've gone with it. I don't know what is your problem with India, but I think we will be building the payra port and proposals have already been sent. Lets see what happens now.
 

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We have been wanting to award this to China from the 80's. However, that would upset India which will see this as a Chinese ingress into SA. The Americans were also v v keen to do this. Dick Cheney's Halliburton even maintain a project office in Chittagong for years. But people were up in arms against that. They eventually packed up and moved to Basra Port.
The only good things about Muslims is that you guys hate the USA almost as much as I do.
 

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China is not building the port, does not mean that port is not going to be built, there are much more experienced and better building partners in the world, that won't try to create a naval base or berthing place.
Well, Chinese have the expertise and above all MONEY.

For such mega projects a proven TRACK RECORD of building and operating ports is of utmost importance. Apart from Colombo and Gwadar, there're -

ISRAEL- China Wins Israeli Port Tender, Mediterranean Hub
GREECE- COSCO Shipping's investment in Piraeus port multi-win
AUSTRALIA- Chinese company secures 99-year lease of Darwin port

These are all commercial in developed countries. No naval base involved.

In addition among the world's Biggest Shipping Companies
there're Cosco (4th) Evergreen (Taiwan 5th) Yang Ming (Taiwan 10th) and OOCL (Hong Kong 12th) from Great China. When port facilities are in place u need fleets to use / serve them. Chinese happan to have them too.

Japanese and Koreans used to sail full steam. Unfortunately they're struggling to make ends meet these years. Chinese have risen as the strongest contender therefore.
 

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The only good things about Muslims is that you guys hate the USA almost as much as I do.
Most of the so called Muslims dont hate USA .

Most of the so called Muslims want freedom instead of sharia .

they love Western movies , songs & way of Life ................but they dont accept it because of Ego .

all the Rich Muslims around the World want to move in non-Islamic western countries .


all of them want to move USA & nobody want to go China .
 
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Well, Chinese have the expertise and above all MONEY.

For such mega projects a proven TRACK RECORD of building and operating ports is of utmost importance. Apart from Colombo and Gwadar, there're -

ISRAEL- China Wins Israeli Port Tender, Mediterranean Hub
GREECE- COSCO Shipping's investment in Piraeus port multi-win
AUSTRALIA- Chinese company secures 99-year lease of Darwin port

These are all commercial in developed countries. No naval base involved.

In addition among the world's Biggest Shipping Companies
there're Cosco (4th) Evergreen (Taiwan 5th) Yang Ming (Taiwan 10th) and OOCL (Hong Kong 12th) from Great China. When port facilities are in place u need fleets to use / serve them. Chinese happan to have them too.

Japanese and Koreans used to sail full steam. Unfortunately they're struggling to make ends meet these years. Chinese have risen as the strongest contender therefore.
Then you should've got the port project of BD based on that track record. And since when Taiwan became a PRC territory ?
 

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Grow up our chinese friend, you are already suffering losses in Pakistan with BLA attacking Chinese convoy and resistance to CPEC.
And you brought it on yourselves.

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