Ties strained as India cuts fuel subsidy to Bhutan

[Ray]

t_co,

Are you aware that China has claimed some parts of Bhutan as a part of Greater Tibet?

 

[roma]

t_co,
Are you aware that China has claimed some parts of Bhutan as a part of Greater Tibet?

real qn is :- is bhutan aware of that ? - that isloated nation needs to know that PLA will easily occupy them as part of " south tibet"

 

[Ray]

real qn is :- is bhutan aware of that ? - that isloated nation needs to know that PLA will easily occupy them as part of " south tibet"

Yes they are aware of it.

Tibetan graziers and PLA men so disguised regularly occupy the Dolam Plateau.

They have left it to India to 'show eyes'.

There are 7 regions where both Bhutan and China's claims overlap. The most disputed remains the Doklam plateau in western Bhutan adjoining Yadung province of Tibet autonomous region. Since 1988, China has been proposing an exchange of pies. During the tenth round of Bhutan-China border talk held in Beijing in 1996, China offered to exchange 495 sq km area of Pasamlung and Jakarlung valleys (Where China and Bhutan overlap) in Bhutan's north for Sinchulumpa, Dramana and Shakhtoe with total area of 269 sq km, in the western Bhutan. On July 13, 1997 BBC reported that Bhutan accepted the proposals. Bhutan, alone cannot take decision to share this pie, since Doklam plateau and Chumbi valley are equally vital for India. Subsequent bilateral talks yielded no results. China began construction of roads and infrastructure in these regions [Photo1]. It led to a decisive Sino- Bhutan agreement in 1998 called "Agreement on The Maintenance of Peace and Tranquility in the Bhutan- China Border areas-1998".
Bhutan-China Border Mismatch | Bhutan News Service

 

[Ray]

So, good.

Bhutan can donate the parts claimed by China as Pakistan has done!

China has tried to topple the King earlier when they assassinated Mr Dorji who was the PM of Bhutan.

 

[anoop_mig25]

No need. India needs to tighten the screws on any country that cosies up with PRC. We shall not be friendly with anyone who is friends with a hostile country. It was Bhutan who made the mistake, they must be made to realize that. You guys on the other hand keep subsidizing Bhutan. Looks like you have a lot of money to throw away while your banks default. Good luck with that!

With this attitude hardly any friends reamain saarc region

 

[Ray]

With this attitude hardly any friends reamain saarc region

True.

Everyone is kicking us because, inspite of our intrinsic worth in economy, defence etc, we still continue to be wimps.

People will join when they know that one can defend their interests.

India cannot defend her own interests.

So, who will care for India?

 

[amoy]

Bhutan has been hijacked and coerced by India with Indian jawans deployed. that makes it difficult to resolve border disputes with China. Once Bhutan bails itself out of the shadow it's just a piece of cake to establish diplomatic ties and settle with China amicably.

why shall Bhutan keep itself as the shield for India's what Silguri chicken neck?! it shall prioritize its own interest.

His majesty should show some guts!

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[Ray]

Bhutan has been hijacked and coerced by India with Indian jawans deployed. that makes it difficult to resolve border disputes with China. Once Bhutan bails itself out of the shadow it's just a piece of cake to establish diplomatic ties and settle with China amicably.

why shall Bhutan keep itself as the shield for India's what Silguri chicken neck?! it shall prioritize its own interest.

His majesty should show some guts!

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Again you are wrong.

No Indian troops are deployed in Bhutan.

There is only the training team.

Once Bhutan releases itself from the 'Indian shadow', it will be gobbled by China!

You have no idea of the military inputs on the Siliguri Corridor. By gazing at a map does not indicate the insurmountable military issues for China!

His Majesty has shown guts so far, the Chinese agents in Bhutan who are well paid up, are the ones who have no guts!

 

[agentperry]

the tactic bhutan was using is known as nepal card which is a very famous term in political science. the buffer state like nepal and bhutan try to gain from both the side and whenever either of the side raises the legitimacy question over say some funding or joint project the buffer state walks straight to the other side demanding its participation. its a formal way of plundering and looting by such states and the motive is that they want more and more from BOTH the side at no cost.
they will do so when they get objection from chinese over unfair dealing and so on.

so its not a cause of worry, only nation that think and act irresponsibly in SAARC is pakistan and we cant do anything about that rest all will be mute spectators at the time of real clash between india and china and hence no need to worry much about such ricocheting bhutanese

 

[roma]

Folks - it's mainly to do with the economy - the relative strengths of the two economies . Dragon's economy is more efficient than ours - we have a lot of leakages - whether corruption or other inefficiencies - and as long as that difference continues, we will see them doing more than ourselves because they can afford it while we may have to struggle to keep up "¦.. We need to straighten out this corruption business and other inefficiencies - then we will see them having to catch up with us"¦"¦

 

[Abhijeet Dey]

What if China adds Bhutan as another country in its String of Pearls strategy.

 

[drkrn]

Ties strained as India cuts fuel subsidy to Bhutan - The Times of India

what kind of geographical advantage can bhutan give india in case of a war with chins?

bhutan though a landlocked and small nation showed excellent bravery in pushing out the extremists working in their land ,against India receiving applause from us.we both nations enjoy a good cultural and economic relations allowing citizens or goods bilaterally without any bureaucratic tangles.

As a matter of fact that bhutan's annual budget is maintained by ministry of external affairs of INDIA costing us few hundred crores every year.

Though bhutan is a reliable friend of india,In this situation i do not find wrong with our babus to give bhutan a message that they need us as we need them.I wish Bhutan reconsider their newly formed relation with china should not be against the interest of their old friend INDIA

 

[amoy]

what has Bhutan done so far? high ranking visits of China, plus a few hints of building up diplomatic relationship, just so much but enough for India's rough nerve. well done Bhutan playing their leverage aptly. just wait for India coming back wooing Bhutan again, who's India's last and must-keep "friend" in S. Asia!

in tandem with this China shall make some gestures to help Bhutan milk India to the max.. awesome!

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[bose]

what has Bhutan done so far? high ranking visits of China, plus a few hints of building up diplomatic relationship, just so much but enough for India's rough nerve. well done Bhutan playing their leverage aptly. just wait for India coming back wooing Bhutan again, who's India's last and must-keep "friend" in S. Asia!

What India has done for Bhutan, none can match... India will wait and watch how far Bhutan can go!! In the mean time no more subsidies for Bhutan until they stop sucking Chinese balls... Bhutan have to take a call if it is with India or China"¦ as simple as that"¦ Bhutan cannot continue to enjoy India money and play geopolitical games"¦

in tandem with this China shall make some gestures to help Bhutan milk India to the max.. awesome!

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Let the Chinese gesture come !! we will see then who milks whom...

 

[Yusuf]

This is the result of the impractical, populist, vote bank scam of Food Guarantee Act.

It doesn't matter to the Chinese, the cost that is

 

[arnabmit]

settle with China amicably = Submit to Chinese hegemony & give land away to China for free

Bhutan has been hijacked and coerced by India with Indian jawans deployed. that makes it difficult to resolve border disputes with China. Once Bhutan bails itself out of the shadow it's just a piece of cake to establish diplomatic ties and settle with China amicably.

why shall Bhutan keep itself as the shield for India's what Silguri chicken neck?! it shall prioritize its own interest.

His majesty should show some guts!

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[amoy]

What India has done for Bhutan, none can match... India will wait and watch how far Bhutan can go!! In the mean time no more subsidies for Bhutan until they stop sucking Chinese balls... Bhutan have to take a call if it is with India or China"¦ as simple as that"¦ Bhutan cannot continue to enjoy India money and play geopolitical games"¦

Let the Chinese gesture come !! we will see then who milks whom...

When did India get so self conceited? Once Bhutan tilts towards China the situation will get irredeemable, just look at cases of SL, Maldives... And the loss can't be measured in money terms. Don't be over confident to take the risk!

Old miser India'd better cancel its ill advised decision, and beg Bhutan to accept the "subsidy" like before.

 

[JBH22]

When did India get so self conceited? Once Bhutan tilts towards China the situation will get irredeemable, just look at cases of SL, Maldives... And the loss can't be measured in money terms. Don't be over confident to take the risk!

Old miser India'd better cancel its ill advised decision, and beg Bhutan to accept the "subsidy" like before.

If subsidy could buy allegiance then USSR would not have lost its satellites states. Massive outflow of funds led to high debt levels for USSR subsidizing inefficient economies.

Would rather have the Indian money used in India and not to subside foreigners

 

[bose]

When did India get so self conceited? Once Bhutan tilts towards China the situation will get irredeemable, just look at cases of SL, Maldives... And the loss can't be measured in money terms. Don't be over confident to take the risk!

India is conscious and knows very well what it is doing...India has to take the bluff out from Bhutan or be it Maldives or SL.. We also want to see how much China is willing to pay to sleep with these countries"¦

Old miser India'd better cancel its ill advised decision, and beg Bhutan to accept the "subsidy" like before.

It is always better to walk quietly and carry a long stick and never forget to use it in the wrong way, whenever it is deemed to be used for ones own interest...

On the bolded part... India does not beg unlike your friend Pakistan... hope you got the message... better give advice to them, we Indian do not have the habit listening to lectures

 

[dhananjay1]

It needs balls, brains, money and muscle power to project a country's influence. The panchshil crap is for retards like Nehru and his idiot followers.