The teenager who 'insulted' six dead soldiers on Facebook

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  1. Blackwater

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    The teenager who 'insulted six dead soldiers on Facebook' appears in court charged with 'gross offence'

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    look at his face:laugh::laugh::laugh:

    A teenager appeared in court yesterday charged with making offensive comments on Facebook about the deaths of six British soldiers.
    Azhar Ahmed, 19, has been accused of committing an offence under the Communications Act of sending a ‘grossly offensive’ message.
    At an earlier he pleaded not guilty to the charge and was due to stand trial at Huddersfield Magistrates Court yesterday.
    Ahmed is alleged to have posted the insulting Facebook message on his profile page on 8 March - two days after the soldiers were killed in an explosion in Afghanistan.
    Ahmed walked into court wearing a cap and with a white woollen hoodie pulled up over this head.
    The District Judge heard no evidence and adjourned the trial until 14 September due to an unexpected legal problem.
    Ahmed, of Ravensthorpe, West Yorkshire, was released on bail.
    Around 20-30 far right protesters appeared at Huddersfield Magistrates Court for the hearing and packed out the public gallery.
    At an earlier court appearance around 50 protestors staged a noisy demonstration with placards calling for those who insult British armed forces to be jailed.


    Read more: The teenager who 'insulted dead soldiers on Facebook' | Mail Online
     
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    If he cant respect his soldier than go back to shiti pakistan :cool2::cool2::cool2:
     
  4. Singh

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    Here is someone with a contrarian view

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    Azhar Ahmed – charged with treason over Facebook comments?


    Comments about the army on a Yorkshire teenager's Facebook page seem to be too much for the new 'total policing' state




    Azhar Ahmed is the latest victim of a concerted effort to redefine racism as "anything that could conceivably offend white people". Ahmed is being prosecuted by police over a statement that appeared on his Facebook page. The police say it is a "racially aggravated public order offence".

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    Look at the statement. There is not a hint of racism in it. To make it racist, one would have to assume that the troops were not just exclusively white, but somehow the bearer of whiteness in its essence. Maybe they are in this day and age; maybe it is through imperialist action and its effects both domestically and internationally that whiteness is produced. But the second assumption one would have to make is that white people are the victims of racist oppression by black people, Muslims and so on. We'll come back to this.

    A spokesperson for Yorkshire police said: "He didn't make his point very well and that is why he has landed himself in bother." So, the penalty for not making a point "very well" is prosecution and potentially a sentence of up to six months in prison. The suggestion, though, is that aside from being "racially aggravated" this statement constitutes an incitement to disorder. Of course, it is considerably more even-tempered than some sentiments I have expressed myself in the past, though I won't suffer arrest or prosecution for it.

    In addition, the internet – and Facebook in particular – contains an abundance of pages that really do exist to incite violence. Yet a Muslim sassing our brave boys is too much for the state. Either this suggests that Muslims are an excitable brown rabble, apt to start cutting white people up at the merest hint of block capitals and exclamation marks, or it implies that it is the feelings of offended white people that must be protected, lest they be the ones who are incited. Unsurprisingly the EDL and Casuals United dirt (may I say that, or is it "racially aggravated"?) are delighted. Muslims won't be allowed to sass our brave boys now that the bizzies are "on our side". Hurrah for the filth! (Is that OK, or...?)

    What is really at stake here? Why are the police behaving like this? The blog of the Index on Censorship website suggests that suspicion of Muslims voicing opposition to the troops is rooted in fear and suspicion resulting from 7/7. To be honest, I think this is lame. The police and the crown prosecution service are not acting out of paranoia. But the blog also makes another suggestion which gets close to the truth in my opinion:

    "Unconditional support for soldiers is now expected, even as we become increasingly unsure of what they're doing out there. From the most ardent supporter of the war to the most strident critic, everyone claims to be acting in the interest of Our Brave Boys. This is now not a matter of politics, but loyalty ... the "racially aggravated" charge doesn't stick, unless one is willing to buy into the notion that Afghanistan is part of an ethno-religious war between 'Islam' and 'the West'."

    This suggests that it is the state, through its action, which is racialising this issue. We know that the state is involved in more than simply the bureaucratic and repressive organisation of society. Fundamentally what it does is a kind of moral regulation, ordering the symbolic world, constituting norms and social classifications. Obviously the law, and the criminal justice system which executes the law, is critical to this constitutive action. The state's re-classification of racist crime in such a way as to efface the axis of oppression, to make it such that "racism cuts both ways", was an important precondition for this sort of action.

    But what is at stake now is an attempt to re-organise the social body behind a resurgent militarism. We have seen the PR efforts aimed at cementing a new consensus that can support war indirectly, or at least neutralise opposition, on the basis of pro-troops sentiment. I think the pukeworthy Military Wives, whatever the producers thought they were doing, was a masterpiece in this sort of propaganda. But consent does not exist in separation from coercion. Violence and, literally, terror is central to how consent is secured. How the police act in producing consent has been dealt with here.

    So we could see this prosecution as aberrant, the criminal justice system over-reacting, over-playing its hand, being too fastidious with incitement laws, or whatever. No doubt some will attribute it to nanny-state authoritarianism, and the usual bores will say that the liberals who support anti-racist legislation caused this to happen. I think it would make more sense to see it as a speculative manoeuvre in the application of an emerging discourse of treason. For that is really the logic of this prosecution. One has to see this question of "incitement" in connection with the repressive and racialised response to the riots last summer, and the generalised unease of the British state about the combustibility of the social order. Those police actions extended the repertoire of repressive tactics already formed in relation to the student protests, G20, UK Uncut, the climate camp and so on. As importantly, I think, it has to be seen in the context of the new doctrine of "total policing", which is essentially about giving the police more of a free hand to intervene in aggressive ways to solve problems of social order, coded as problems of crime prevention.

    A premium is being placed on pre-emptive action, literally – I repeat, literally – on terror. In this case, it is disloyalty that is being punished, in a racialised way. The action of the police and courts is about constituting a new field of punishable conduct. And when disloyalty is punished, there really isn't much that can't be included under its canopy.

    Azhar Ahmed – charged with treason over Facebook comments? | Richard Seymour | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
     
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    I guess this sentiment is prevalent in Muslim world. Nothing appears to be racist here. But grossly offensive? Yes. To the family and relatives of the deceased.

    Glossing them as contrarian does nobody any good. It is Islam which makes majority of them think that way, be it in western or in Muslim countries. And this is because religion demarcates between Muslims and Kafirs and the land in either Dar-ul-Islam and Dar-ul-Harab. As long as the Western Army is in Dar-ul-Islam, they would be angry. Even if they leave that place, they would be angry for some other reason. The point is they would be angry as long as there are Kafirs.
     
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    I can see he recieved "8 Likes" as well... this means they all agree and partners in crime, would they be sued as well? :confused:

    UK is nourshing Paki traitors who are living like parasites on its land.
     
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    This is not as bad as the protest of soldiers returning from Iraq's
    Homecoming parade

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    All soldiers should Die and go to Hell is not racist, but it sure is in bad taste, when so many are dying in Afghanistan.

    A nation at war would naturally be sensitive to such comments.

    Imagine how peeved we get with that awful freak of a woman Arundhuti Roy and the Gee Looney!

    I fail to understand as to why the Muslim in the UK cannot identify themselves with the ethos and thinking of UK, when they live and reap the benefits of British citizenship.

    Why be deliberately different and offensive?

    There has been cases when British soldiers returning from Iraq have been attacked by Muslim, to include a wounded soldier brought in an NHS hospital for prolonged treatment.

    This has been building up.

    Now, if the UK is a crap all nation for some Muslims, then they should leave the dung heap if they feel the UK to be so, and so to wherever they feel they will smell only roses and milk and honey!

    The mindset has been ruined by radical Mullahs in Britain and to that extent, Britain is responsible for the situation they now decry!

    As ye Sow, so shall Ye Reap!

    That Muslim chap is sure a Mirpur Kashmiri.

    See his long hooked nose!
     
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    pakis at the best
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    Let them cross a certain % of UK population an see how peaceful they would become. :rolleyes:
     
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    Is there any difference between Azhar Ahmed and the DFI crowd who cheers the killing of pakistanis civilian/military alike.
     
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    So what do you think about average paki who supports killings of average India. Want proof see rallies hosted by Hafees Saied( dont care a f*** how to spell that pigs name) or rallies of your duffer-e-porkistan consil.
    Want more proof view Zahil Hamid videos and yes we know that laal topi and his views have a huge following in porkistan
     
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    Cheering the death of terrorist? Hell yeah.
     
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    ^ :rotflmao:

    Muslim immigration: the most radical change in European history
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/e...-the-most-radical-change-in-european-history/

    Are Muslim radicals trying to provoke a civil war in Britain?
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/c...als_trying_to_provoke_a_civil_war_in_Britain/

    Muslim extremists using Facebook, Twitter to radicalise UK students: Report
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...e-UK-students-Report/articleshow/13598061.cms

    As Islamic extremists declare Britain's first Sharia law zone, the worrying social and moral implications http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...uburb-worrying-social-moral-implications.html

    Extremist preachers now radicalising young Muslims in private homes, says senior Government security adviser http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-says-senior-Government-security-adviser.html

    'Hindu girls targeted by extremists'
    http://www.metro.co.uk/news/38548-hindu-girls-targeted-by-extremists

    Universities 'complacent' over Islamic extremism, warns Theresa May
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jun/06/universities-attacked-over-islamic-extremism

    UK PRIME MINISTER BLAMES MULTICULTURALISM FOR ISLAMIC EXTREMISM
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/uk-prime-minister-blames-multiculturalism-for-islamic-extremism/

    And the list goes on and on..........

    It isn't Islamphobia when they are really trying to kill on the name of Islam.
     
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    Now you are trolling !Is not it ?
     
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    If telling the truth is trolling then yes i'm.
     
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    Yes the diffrence is we do not live in Pakistan and insult dead pakistani soldiers, unlike you and your Mullah kind who take refuge under secular countries and then speak against the very nation you live in. Get it?
     

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