The mood is changing in Pakistan toward a Kashmir settlement

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  1. ejazr

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    THE DAILY STAR :: Opinion :: Commentary :: The mood is changing in Pakistan toward a Kashmir settlement

    By Shashi Tharoor
    The Daily Star

    A subtle shift may be occurring in one of the world’s longest-standing and most intractable conflicts – the dispute between India and Pakistan over Kashmir. Increasingly, it seems, Pakistanis are questioning what the Kashmir dispute has done to their own state and society.

    When Pakistan was carved out of India by the departing British in the 1947 Partition, the 562 “princely states” (regions nominally ruled by assorted potentates, but owing allegiance to the British Raj) were required to accede to either of the two new countries. The Maharaja of Jammu and Kashmir – a Muslim-majority state with a Hindu ruler – dithered over which of the two to join, and flirted with the idea of remaining independent.

    But rumors that the Maharaja was leaning toward India triggered an invasion from Muslim revolutionaries and Pakistani tribesmen. The Maharaja, fearing that his state would fall to the marauders, acceded to India, which promptly sent troops to stop the aggressors (by that point augmented by the Pakistan Army). The First Kashmir War lasted until 1948, at which point India took the issue to the United Nations Security Council. This resulted in a cease-fire that left India in possession of roughly two-thirds of the state.

    In order to determine the Kashmiris’ preference, the United Nations mandated a plebiscite, to be conducted after Pakistani troops had withdrawn from the territory. India had insisted on a popular vote. Kashmir’s National Conference Party, led by the fiery and hugely popular Sheikh Abdullah, was a democratic, pluralist movement that was closer to the Indian National Congress, the party of Jawaharlal Nehru, independent India’s first prime minister, than it was to the Muslim League, which had advocated the creation of Pakistan.

    Nehru had no doubt that India would win a plebiscite. Pakistan, well aware of Abdullah’s popularity and worried that Nehru was right about the outcome, ignored the U.N. mandate and refused to withdraw. The plebiscite was never held, and the dispute has festered ever since.

    Four wars (in 1948, 1965, 1971 and 1999) have been fought across the cease-fire line, now called the Line of Control (LOC), without materially altering the situation. Beginning in the late 1980s, a Kashmiri Muslim insurrection erupted, backed by Pakistan both financially and with armed militants who crossed the LOC into India.

    Both the uprising and the Indian security forces’ response have caused widespread casualties and destruction of property, all but wrecking Kashmir’s economy, which depends largely on tourism and handicrafts. In the process, both countries have suffered enormously. Thousands of India’s citizens have been killed, and the country has had to deploy more than half a million troops to keep the peace.

    Meanwhile, Pakistan’s strategy of “bleeding India to death” through insurgency and terrorism has accomplished little other than to make its military enormously powerful and disproportionately wealthy. (Largely thanks to Kashmir, the Pakistani Army controls a larger share of its country’s national budget than any other army in the world.)

    The Pakistani military may have once thought that fomenting militancy and terrorism in India was an effective strategy for hurting the enemy at little cost. But now Pakistan’s government increasingly recognizes that it may have become the main victim of its Kashmir policy, which has left the country with a distorted polity and a military that has carried out four coups and calls the shots from behind the scenes.

    Moreover, Pakistan’s economy is collapsing, with inflation raging and a large number of unemployed and under-educated young men radicalized by years of Islamist propaganda against the Indian infidel. The result is a combustible mixture of extremism and hopelessness that threatens to consume the Pakistani state, as government-sponsored terrorists now turn on their erstwhile patrons.

    Leading members of the Pakistani establishment are beginning to see this. On a recent visit to Islamabad and Lahore, I sensed in private conversations a widespread desire to put the Kashmir dispute on the back burner and explore avenues of mutually beneficial cooperation with India.

    Pakistanis are saying it publicly, too. In a recent interview, the politician and religious leader Maulana Fazal-ur-Rehman spoke frankly about Kashmir: “Obviously, we are in favor of a political solution ... Things have changed so much. Now the concept of winning Kashmir has taken a back seat to the urgency of saving Pakistan.”

    Younger Pakistanis are going even further. The columnist Yaqoob Khan Bangash, for example, openly derides the hallowed Pakistani argument that, as Muslims, Indian Kashmiris would want to join Pakistan: “Despite being practically a war zone since 1989, Indian Kashmir has managed higher literacy, economic growth, and per capita income rates than most of Pakistan,” he wrote recently. “Why would the Kashmiris want to join Pakistan now? What do we have to offer them?”

    Beyond that, many argue, the costs of the prolonged obsession with Kashmir have become unsustainable for a Pakistan mired in internal problems. Kashmiris, wrote Bangash, “should certainly not come at the cost of our own survival, and not when all that we will be able to offer them is a failed state.”

    This is still a heretical position in Pakistan, but it is a view that is gaining ground. When Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who consistently advocates peace with his nuclear-armed neighbor, suggested last summer that Pakistan should “leave the Kashmir issue alone” and focus on its domestic challenges, the comment did not elicit the customary howls of outrage in Pakistani media. Instead, it was met with a grudging acknowledgement that this time India’s leader might be right.

    If such episodes reflect an incipient new national mood in Pakistan, it could well be time for India to seize the moment to build a lasting peace.

    Shashi Tharoor, a former Indian minister of state for foreign affairs and United Nations under-secretary-general, is a member of India’s Parliament and the author of many books, including “India from Midnight to the Millennium” and “Nehru: The Invention of India.” THE DAILY STAR publishes this commentary in collaboration with Project Syndicate © (Project Syndicate - the highest quality op-ed articles, analysis and commentaries).
     
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    Written by Shashi Tharoor.!! I thought some Paki would have written reading the title.

    Anyways, WE cannot push the issue on the back burner. The Chinis are in Kashmir. We need a new and aggressive policy towards Kaahmir to get back strategic land.
     
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    Actually India must not settle Kashmir issue and continue to engage Pak in a arms rat race.
     
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    I concur..
     
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    Both the countries wish to keep the dispute on with the hope that the other will somehow fail. Indians are hopefull that in the event of Pakistan breaking down, the POK will naturally fall back and be part of India. For Pakistan stakes are higher. Having lost three wars they also hope against hope that there will be rebellion in the valley which will make valley part of Pakistan. That has remained a wishfull thinking so far.

    India should keep the dispute on and keep that as bilateral issue and not allow China to participate in the dispute. India was sucessfull in keeping the Internal community off the dispute but entry of China as the third factor is not good. That will force India to be third party in disputes involving China globally. That is the danger.

    For Pakistan there can never be peace. Sword must be kept dangling over their head. That is the way they like it.
     
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    Agree with you. One more defeat in a war and they will disintegrate like the Soviet Union
     
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    Keep the pressure on by demanding the handover of terrorists. After recently concluded war games in Rajhastan, we should have one on Punjab and then Gujrat borders to be concluded in J & K. After these war games start the Navy exercise near their marine boundaries. At the same time start the training of Baluch nationals in to fight occupation forces and send insurgents in to illegaly occupied Kashmir by Pukijabis Army. Do not give into arm twisting by any nation. that is what I will do while occupying PM office. This will be the number one priority. I want to cripple them from one end to the other so bad that they will be forced to get on their knees to beg for mercy. I am not done yet the next chapter will be to get our hands on those bastards who mutilated the body's of POW's of Indian Army and try them in Indian courts with Capital punishment as the ultimate revenge.
     
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    Shashi Tharoor should get its history right . tribesmen invansion was a full proof militrary plan. second whatever common pakistani`s think there ideas regarding kashmir are of no value untill and unless some generals of PA army approves it .
     
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    disintegrating pakistan is not so near. pakjabi army and it's nuclear bomb is enough to fret the balouchis and pashtuns from asking freedom from pakistan. remove the islamic bomb from pakistan and see the results.
     
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    well if you think pakistan can change you are living in dream .

    its better we dont live in dream
     
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    We have the example of a much stronger and nuclear USSR to have disintegrated. It is not a distant dream but a possibility of the next few decades.
     
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    We should not settle the issue unless they hand over Full of kashmir...

    But i dont think it will happen..... This ----ers of a government already making maps of India with POK as their territory....... I wont be surprised if the CONs sold us out to the Porkis... I dont trust these *****r Fuc(kers one bit...:toilet::finger::finger::nono:
     
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    The Pakies have given Gilgit on 50 years lease and here is our psudo intellectual, Mr Sashi Tharoor talking of change in mood !! And this gentleman of super delux class aspires to be FM of India ! Where are we !
     

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