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    Thread where we discuss and I explain why india must have a monarch and why monarchs are just all around better in general than republican presidents/prime ministers and of course discussing well known monarchists themselves. Respect for Ganarajya, and lokshahi will shat upon and refuted as well as Fucking 1947 Republic Versailles Day (holy hell you guys celebrate partition and republic!!! hitler never said that when millions of germans were being killed and raped and driven out of their ancestral homelands in Czechoslovakia and Poland due to PARTITION). Figures such as Ambedkar, Patel, Nehru, Menon, Modi, Indira and what have you will be ridiculed as well for being the truly disgusting republican reptilians that they are. Just to let you know.........
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    Roman von Ungern-Sternberg
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    Roman Fyodorovich von Ungern-Sternberg, in 1921, in a Mongolian deel uniform with Russian Order of St. George 4th Class
    Born December 29, 1885
    Graz, Austria-Hungary
    Died September 15, 1921 (aged 35)
    Novosibirsk, Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic
    Allegiance Russian Empire
    Bogd Khaanate of Mongolia
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    Years of service 1906–1921
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    Commands held Asiatic Cavalry Division
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    Baron Roman Nikolai Maximilian von Ungern-Sternberg (Russian: Барон Ро́берт-Ни́колай-Максими́лиан Рома́н Фёдорович фон У́нгерн-Ште́рнберг)[1][2] (December 29, 1885 NS – September 15, 1921) was an anti-Bolshevik lieutenant general in the Russian Civil War and then an independent warlord whose Asiatic Cavalry Division wrested control of Mongoliafrom the occupation of Mongolia by the Republic of China in 1921.

    Ungern-Sternberg's attraction to Vajrayana Buddhism and his eccentric, often violent treatment of enemies as well as his own troops earned him the sobriquet "the Mad Baron" during the Russian Civil War. He was also an arch conservative pan-monarchist who aspired to restore the Russian monarchy under Grand Duke Michael Alexandrovich of Russia and revive theMongol Empire under the rule of the Bogd Khan. During his short five month occupation of Outer Mongolia, Ungern-Sternberg imposed order on the capital Ikh Khüree through fear, intimidation, and brutal violence against opponents, particularly Bolshevik supporters.

    His subsequent invasion of South Siberia in support of anti-Bolshevik rebellions and to head off a Red Army-Mongolian partisan invasion in June 1921 ultimately led to his defeat and capture two months later. He was taken prisoner by the Red Army and tried for counterrevolution in Novonikolaevsk in 1921. After a six-hour show trial, he was found guilty and executed on September 15, 1921.



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    Roman Nikolai Maximilian von Ungern-Sternberg as a child
    R.F. von Ungern-Sternberg was born in Graz, Austria on December 29, 1885 to a noble Baltic-German family. His mother was Sophie Charlotte von Wimpffen, later Sophie Charlotte von Ungern-Sternberg, and his father was Theodor Leonhard Rudolph von Ungern-Sternberg (1857–1918). In 1888 his family moved to Reval (Tallinn), the capital of the Governorate of Estoniawithin the Russian Empire, where his parents divorced three years later in 1891. In 1894 his mother married Oskar Anselm Herrmann von Hoyningen-Huene.[3] From 1900 to 1902 Ungern attended the Nicholas I Gymnasium, Tallinn. In 1903 he enrolled in Marine Officers Cadet School in Saint Petersburg. In 1905 he left the school to join the fighting in Eastern Russia during the Russo-Japanese War, but it is unclear whether he participated in operations against the Japanese, or if all military operations had ceased before his arrival in Manchuria.[4]

    In 1906 Ungern was transferred to service in Pavlovskoe Military School in Saint Petersburg as a cadet of ordinary rank.[5] After graduating he served as an officer in East Siberia in the 1st Argunsky and the 1st Amursky Cossack regiments, where he became enthralled with the lifestyle of nomadic peoples such as the Mongols and Buryats. In 1913, at his request, he transferred to the reserves. Ungern moved to Outer Mongolia to assist Mongols in their struggle for independence from China, but Russian officials prevented him from fighting with Mongolian troops. He arrived in the town of Khovd in western Mongolia and served as out-of-staff officer in the Cossack guard detachment at the Russian consulate.

    First World War[edit]
    On July 19, 1914 Ungern joined front-line forces as part of the second-turn 34th regiment of Cossack troops stationed on the Austrianfrontier in Galicia. Ungern took part in the Russian offensive in East Prussia and from 1915-1916 he also participated in rear-action raids on German troops by the L.N. Punin Cavalry Special Task Force.[6] Throughout the war on the Eastern Front, Ungern gained a reputation as a brave but somewhat reckless and mentally unstable officer. Although decorated with several military awards, he was eventually discharged from one of his command positions for failing to obey orders. General Wrangel mentions Ungern's determination in his memoirs.

    After the February Revolution in 1917, Ungern was transferred to the Caucasian theatre of the conflict, where Russia was fighting against the Ottoman Turks. In April 1917 near Urmia, Iran, Ungern, together with Grigory Semyonov, started to organize a volunteer military unit composed of local Syriac Christians. Under Ungern's command, they went on to score some minor victories over the Turks, but their total contribution to Russia's war effort was limited.[7]

    Bolshevik Revolution, 1917[edit]
    After the Bolshevik-led October Revolution of 1917, Semyonov and Ungern declared their allegiance to the Romanovs and vowed to fight the revolutionaries. Semyonov, backed by the Japanese, appointed Ungern governor of Dauria, the large area to the east-southeast of Lake Baikal. In the months that followed, Ungern distinguished himself by his exceedingly eccentric behavior, which lead many[quantify] to dub him the "Mad Baron". Semyonov and Ungern, though fervently anti-Bolshevik, were not part of the White movement and Semyonov refused to recognize the authority of Admiral Aleksandr Kolchak, the nominal leader of the Whites in Siberia. Instead he acted independently, supported by the Japanese with arms and money. For White leaders like Kolchak and Denikin, who believed in a "Russia strong and indivisible", this represented high treason. Ungern was nominally subordinated to Semyonov but he too often acted independently.[8]

    Because of his successful military operations in Hailar and Dauria, Ungern received the rank of Major-General. Semyonov appointed him commandant of the Dauria railway station and entrusted him with forming military units to battle Bolshevik forces. In Dauria, Ungern formed the volunteer Asiatic Cavalry Division (Russian: Азиатская конная дивизия), a mix of Russians, Buryats, Tatars, Bashkirs, Mongols from different tribes, Chinese, Manchu, Japanese, Polish exiles and many others.[8] Ungern's unit was known as "The Savage Division" (Russian: Дикая дивизия), a term properly referring to the military unit consisting of mountain peoples from the Caucasus or Mongolic Kalmyks in the Russian Imperial Army,[citation needed] which fought in World War I and later, after the Russian Revolution, against Bolsheviks. Ungern reinforced his military station at Dauria, creating a kind of fortress from where his troops launched attacks on Red forces.

    Like many other White units, Ungern's troops employed plundering as source of their supply. They plundered trains passing through Dauria to Manchuria. While these confiscations did not significantly diminish the supplies of Kolchak's forces, private Russian and Chinese merchants lost considerable property.[9]

    Ungern believed that monarchy was the only social system which could save Western civilisation from corruption and self-destruction. He began to pursue the idea of restoringGenghis Khan's Mongolian Empire - with the Qing Dynasty providing the most appropriate candidate for the throne. Ungern sought to organize a military expedition to Mongolia, at that time occupied by the Chinese troops formerly led by General Xu Shuzheng, a member of the pro-Japanese Anhui clique in the Chinese government, to restore the rule of the Bogd Khan as part of his plan to re-establish monarchies from the Far East to Europe.[10]

    The Japanese ordered the pro-Japanese Chinese warlords to occupy Mongolia in order to halt a possibly revolutionary spillover from the Russian revolutionaries into Mongolia and Northern China.[11] After the fall of the Anhui Clique, Chinese soldiers in Mongolia found themselves effectively abandoned. They rebelled against their commanders, and plundered and killed Mongols and foreigners.[12]

    Many of the Chinese troops during the occupation were Tsahar (Chahar) Mongols from Inner Mongolia, which has been a major cause for animosity between Outer Mongols (Khalkhas) and Inner Mongols.[13]

    As part of his plans, Ungern traveled to Manchuria and China proper (February through September 1919). There he established contacts with monarchistic circles, and also made preparations for Semyonov to meet with the Manchurian warlord Zhang Zuolin. In July 1919 Ungern married the Manchurian princess Ji in an Orthodox ceremony. The princess was given the name Elena Pavlovna Ungern-Sternberg. They communicated in English. This marriage had a political aim, as Ji was a princess and a relative of General Zhang Kuiwu, commander of Chinese troops at the western end of the Chinese-Manchurian Railway (in Russian: KVZhD), and governor of Hailar.[8]

    Restoring the independence of Outer Mongolia[edit]
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    After Kolchak's defeat at the hands of the Red Army and the subsequent decision of Japan to withdraw its expeditionary troops from the Transbaikal,Semyonov, unable to withstand the pressure of Bolshevik forces, planned a retreat to Manchuria. Ungern, however, saw this as an opportunity to implement his monarchistic plan. On 7 August 1920, he broke his allegiance to Semyonov and transformed his Asiatic Cavalry Division into a guerrilla detachment.[1]

    Ungern's troops crossed the northern border of Outer Mongolia on October 1, 1920 and moved south-westwards.[14] Ungern entered into negotiations with Chinese occupying forces. All of his demands, including disarmament of the Chinese troops were rejected. On October 26–27 and again on November 2–4, 1920 Ungern's troops assaulted Mongolia's capital, Urga (officially Niislel Khuree; now Ulaanbaatar) but suffered tremendous losses. After the defeat, Ungern's troops retreated to the upper currents of the Kherlen River in Setsen-Khan Aimag (district ruled by princes with the title Setsen Khan) in eastern Outer Mongolia. He was supported by Mongols who sought independence from Chinese occupation, especially the Bogd Khan, who secretly sent Ungern his blessing for expelling Chinese from Mongolia. The Chinese had tightened their control of Outer Mongolia by this time, strictly regulating Buddhist services in monasteries and imprisoning Russians and Mongols whom they considered "separatists". According to memoirs by M.G. Tornovsky, the Asiatic Division numbered 1460 men, while the Chinese garrison was seven thousand men strong. The Chinese had the advantage in artillery and machine guns, and had built a network of trenches in and around Urga.[14]

    On February 1, 1921, Ungern's detachment, led by B.P. Rezukhin, captured Chinese front-line fortifications. Other troops moved to Urga and to theManjusri Monastery on Bogd Khan Uul mountain south of Urga. On February 2, Ungern's troops battled for control of Chinese front lines and secured parts of Urga.[14] During the battle Ungern's special detachment of Tibetans, Mongols, Buryats and Russians rescued the Bogd Gegeen from house-arrest and transported him through the Bogd Uul to Manjusri Monastery. On February 3, Ungern gave his soldiers a respite. Borrowing a tactic from Genghis Khan, Ungern ordered his troops to light a large number of camp fires in the hills surrounding Urga, using them as reference points for Rezukhin's detachment. This also made the town appear to be surrounded by an overwhelming force.[15] On February 4, Ungern launched a major assault on the remaining Chinese positions in Urga from the east, capturing the most fortified positions at the barracks and the Chinese trade settlement (Chinese: 買賣城, Maimaicheng). The entire capital was finally taken after several fierce battles, although a part of Chinese troops had abandoned the town earlier. Nevertheless, small battles continued through February 5.

    Between March 11 and 13 Ungern captured a fortified Chinese base at Choir south of Urga; while Chinese soldiers abandoned Zamyn-Üüd without a battle.[14]

    When remaining Chinese troops, having retreated to northern Mongolia near Kyakhta, then attempted to round Urga to the west in order to reach China, Russians and Mongols feared an attempt to re-capture Urga. Several hundred Cossack and Mongol units were dispatched to meet the Chinese troops of several thousand strength in the area of Urga - Uliastai road near the Tuul river in central Mongolia. There battles raged from March 30 to April 2, the Chinese troops were routed and pursued to the southern border of the country. Thus Chinese forces left Outer Mongolia.[16]

    Mongolia before the entry of Bolsheviks, 1921[edit]
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    The Bogd Khan (1869–1924) of Mongolia
    Ungern, Mongolian lamas and princes brought the Bogd Khan from Manjusri Monastery to Urga on February 21, 1921. On February 22, a solemn ceremony took place, restoring the Bogd Khan to the throne.[17][18] As a reward for ousting the Chinese from Urga, the Bogd Khan granted Ungern the high hereditary title darkhan khoshoi chin wang in the degree of khan, and other privileges. Other officers, lamas and princes who had participated in these events also received high titles and awards.[19] For seizing Urga, Ungern received from Semyonov the rank of Lieutenant-General. Mongolia was proclaimed an independent monarchy under the theocratic power of Bogd Khan, or the 8th Bogd Gegen Jebtsundamba Khutuktu.

    On March 13, 1921, Mongolia was proclaimed an independent monarchy, under Ungern as a dictator. A mystic who was fascinated by beliefs and religions of the Far East such as Buddhism and who believed himself to be a reincarnation of Genghis Khan, Ungern von Sternberg's philosophy was an exceptionally muddled mixture of Russian nationalism with Chinese and Mongol beliefs. His traditionalism and orientalism, quite atypical for Western culture at that time, contributed to his reputation as the "Mad Baron".

    Historians note that Ungern was viewed as the incarnation of the "God of War" (the figure of Jamsaran in Tibetan and Mongol folklore). Although many Mongols may have believed him to be a deity, or at the very least an incarnation of Genghis Khan, Ungern was never officially proclaimed to be any of these incarnations.[1] Civil power over Mongolia formally belonged to the Bogd Khan.[1]

    According to some eyewitnesses (his engineer and officer Kamil Giżycki, and adventurer and writer Ferdynand Antoni Ossendowski, etc.), Ungern was the first to institute order in Urga; imposing street cleaning and sanitation, and promoting religious life and tolerance in the capital, and attempting to reform the economy.

    His Asiatic Cavalry Division consisted of national detachments, such as the Chinese regiment, Japanese unit, various Cossack regiments, Mongol, Buryat, Tatar and other peoples' units. Ungern said that 16 nationalities served in his division. Dozens of Tibetans also served as part of his troops. They might have been sent by 13th Dalai Lama, with whom Ungern communicated, or these Tibetans may have belonged to the Tibetan colony in Urga.[1] A staunch anti-semite, Ungern ordered the execution of 38 Jews in Urga, while the total number of executions was approximately 846.[1]

    The Kalmyk Oirat Mongol leader Ja Lama murdered all the members of a delegation sent by Ungern to Lhasa in 1920.[20] Ja-lama was apparently found to be a dissillusionment by Ungern who had been an admirer, only to allude to him by insults after actually entering Mongolia.[21]

    Defeat, capture, and execution, 1921[edit]
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    The Bolsheviks started infiltrating Mongolia shortly after the October revolution 1917, i.e. long before they took control of the Russian Transbaikal. In 1921, various Red Army units belonging to Soviet Russia and to its satellite state, the Far Eastern Republic, invaded newly independent Mongolia to defeat Ungern. These forces included the Red Mongolian leader and independence hero Damdin Sükhbaatar. Spies and various smaller diversionary units went ahead to spread terror and betrayal to weaken Ungern's forces. Ungern organized an expedition to meet these forces in Siberia and to support ongoing anti-Bolshevik rebellions. Believing he had the unwavering popular support of locals in Siberia and Mongolia, Ungern failed to properly strengthen his troops despite being vastly outnumbered and out-gunned by the Red forces. However, unbeknownst to Ungern, the Reds had successfully crushed uprisings in Siberia, and the Soviet economic policies had temporarily softened in Lenin's NEP. Upon Ungern's arrival, few local peasants and Cossacks volunteered to join him.

    In the spring the Asiatic Cavalry Division was divided into two brigades: one under the command of Lieutenant-general Ungern and the second under Major-General Rezukhin. In May, Rezukhin's brigade launched a raid beyond the Russian border to the west of the Selenge River. Ungern's brigade left Urga and slowly moved to the Russian town of Troitskosavsk (present-day Kyakhta in Buryatia). Meanwhile, the Reds moved large forces towards Mongolia from different directions. They had a tremendous advantage in equipment (armored cars, airplanes, rail, gunboats, ammunition, human reserves, etc.) and in numbers of troops. As a result, Ungern was defeated in battles that took place between June 11 and 13 and failed to capture Troitskosavsk. Then the combined Bolshevik and Red Mongol forces entered Mongolia and captured Urga after a few small skirmishes with Ungern's guard detachments.[1]

    Having captured Urga on July 6, 1921, the Red forces failed to defeat the main forces of the Asiatic Division (Ungern's and Rezukhin's brigades). Ungern regrouped and attempted to invade Transbaikal across the Russo-Mongolian border. To rally his soldiers and local people, Ungern quoted an agreement with Grigory Semyonov and pointed to a supposed Japanese offensive which was to support their drive, although neither Semyonov, nor Japanese were eager to assist him. After several days rest, on July 18, the Asiatic Division started its raid into Soviet territory. Eyewitnesses Kamil Giżycki and Mikhail Tornovsky gave similar estimates of their numbers: about three thousand men in total.[22] Ungern's troops penetrated deep into Russian territory. The Soviets declared martial law in areas where the Whites were expected, including Verkhneudinsk (now Ulan-Ude, the capital of Buryatia). Ungern's troops captured many settlements; the northernmost being Novoselenginsk, occupied by them on August 1. By this time, Ungern understood that his offensive was ill-prepared; he also heard about the approach of large forces of the Reds. On August 2, 1921 he began his retreat to Mongolia, where he declared his determination to fight Communism. While Ungern's troops wanted to abandon the war-effort and to head towards Manchuria to join with other Russian émigrés, it soon became clear that Ungern had other ideas. He wanted to retreat to Tuva, then to Tibet. Troops under both Ungern and Rezukhin effectively mutinied and hatched plots to kill their respective commanders. On August 17, Rezukhin was killed. A day later conspirators unsuccessfully tried to assassinate Ungern. His command then collapsed as his brigade broke apart. On 20 August Ungern was captured by the Soviet detachment led by the famous guerrilla commander P.E. Shchetinkin (later a member of the Cheka).[23]

    After a show trial of 6 hours and 15 minutes on 15 September 1921, prosecuted by Yemelyan Yaroslavsky, the Baron was sentenced to execution by firing squad. The sentence was carried out that very evening or night in Novonikolaevsk.

    "When he learnt of his death, the Bogd Khan ordered prayers for his soul to be read throughout Mongolia. They were undoubtedly needed." [24]
     
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    Cant find Jaimal Phata plz sum1 can post? Democracy can nvr produce these kind of men
     
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    If we had monarchy or even a military dictator like V K Singh or Bikram Singh, Pakis would've been punished on regular basis and there were no jihadi in Paki Punjab.

    Democratic masters

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    Dictators/Monarch

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    Look at the badges and accomplishment on his uniform including the US Rangers badge and one man Tank Buster.
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    Cold and Cough Vs US Ranger :lol:
     
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    If Sardar Patel and Menon had not screwed around after partition and maybe appointed a king we might just have been able to create a fine imperial system similar to the German Empire except on a linguistic basis because states like Hyderabad would have to be partitioned and new agencies would have to be created to group up princely states speaking the same language.
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    @VaghaDeva Some really flawed logic there .. you could have kept Elisabeth as QUEEN just like so many countries across the world did . You would have retained your monarchy and your imperial system ( with the jewels )

    Now a bit more seriously .. in recent history (20 th century) absolutist/ authoritarian empires were crushed or dismembered, how do you explain this ?
    A quick list : Ottomans , Habsburgs of Austria, Romanov of Russia, German Empire, Japanese Empire ?
     
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    You forgot one absolutist authoritarian empire that never died[​IMG]
    Yes and we also could have kept the princely states if 1857 had succeeded and your forgetting that under every republican government the leaders eventually degenerate into spineless traitors who are too afraid to do battle with the Reds and the Greens (musalmans) and despise our culture while turning it into some weak Western interpretation. Leftist governments did so from the beginning. I would rather have a government with good leadership based on actual Indian government structures like the Ashta Pradhan that is more capable of whipping communists and defeatists in our ranks into place, instilling unity and a sense of pride among Hindus and preserving our territorial and moral integrity instead of having leftist republican democratic leaders that are masturbating in the little girls room to doing pointless in the void doggy style with Marx, Lenin and Robespierre as our troops get killed in Pathankot and our girls are raped and converted in Kerala,Tulunadu, Sindh, Kashmir due to love jihads and being too afraid to do anything to save them because all of their cohorts are screaming "muh freedoms" "muh democracy" "muh tolerance" which republicanism and democracy stand for but it has been the bane of us ever since 1947. We have been a WEIMAR REPUBLIC for 70 years and all it gave us was shitty borders, thousands of dead soldiers, communist and Islamist domination in politics and women being raped and killed or converted by jihadis!!! It is these kind of republican scum that provided that there is an afterlife will end up chewed in the mouth of Satan for all eternity. It is not a matter of being democratic that concerns these reptilians of UN it is whether they are useful to them just look at Saudi Arabia.
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    @Tactical Frog the cousin marrying whore was never Queen.


    US president is elected by council not population. Eu is dictatorship as well & mostly constitutional monarchy. Without a royal family to model themselves after, the common people look to actors & singers for values.

    As the son of a prostitute becomes a marasi, nothing more to say.

    Why would you want a secular state instead of one ruled by dharam. Something like same gotra marriage is inviolable. The society has to pay the consequences of inbreeding, so can act to ban it.

    This christian sense of entitlement & rights is interesting but ultimately worthless. Let the European Isis theatre open up fully so we can act in our own borders unharassed.
    @VaghaDeva abrahamics have increased from under 5 crore to 70-90 now & people think this is 'good' 'normal' 'progressive'

    The only acceptable number is 0.
     
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    All right Elisabeth was not yet Queen at the time of India' s independence but she would have become Empress of India had her father died a little earlier. India could have opted for the exact same system as Australia and Canada in order to keep the fiction of monarchy.

    US is a republic and the President is everything but a monarch. European Union is mostly republics ! With a little luck we could get rid soon enough of a certain constitutional monarchy ;)

    The only model I would eventually look at if I was a monarchist is the Imperial family of Japan. They really maintain a very high standard of decency for a royal family. But Japan ' s imperial tradition is extremely old and it is difficult to replicate elsewhere .
     
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    I take it that you monarchists have little sympathy for this particular monarch ? Heard about him because he was active at the time of Napoleon .. fighting England with rockets of his own, so a possible ally. But I did not know anything else about his reign til today. One thing is for sure, he was not democrat nor " enlightened".
     
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    I literally can't even see what you just posted
     
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    @Tactical Frog you misunderstand, no melech was ever emperor of Hind. Look at the map,

    I don't see point in arguing with you. Will just wait 15 years for your political extinction & 50 for your ethnic. :)
     
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    The quest
    The question is who would have been the king? The Brits had all but eliminated the Mughals.
     
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    Panjab47 सर्वाग्रेक्षत्रियाजट्टादेवकल्पादृढ़व्रता|੧੫| Banned

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    @Tactical Frog what's controversial? He was muslim so he's bad, if he had returned to Hindu he would be good.

    @rockey 71 stupid inbred, even britshit admit Mughals had no power after Baba Banda Singh showed them who their baap was. After that we killed Persians/Afghans & took Afghans. Why was your mughal emperor paying chowt to Baghel Singh Dhaliwal? A naagvanshi gotra we don't even consider really powerful.

    Simplest equation is: Rajputs Rape Sindh, We Take Rest of Pak & Marathas rape your bengal.

    Akal Takht Jathedar is Spirtual Leader, Dhillon Misl returns to Dilli.

    It's what's going to happen in 20-30 years anyway, prepare your Tulsi.
     
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    Sorry but if monarchy is good system for Hindus, it is a good system for muslims too ! so you can be muslim and be a great monarch at the same time. Muslim bad king/ Hindu good king is really simplistic.
    My species of frog is not going to be extinct any soon ... but we are an open society, so we are opened to muslims, chinese buddhists and hindus if they want to be part of the French Republic.

    How do you guys intend to proceed to select a new king / emperor for India ?
    Any pretenders ?
     
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    Panjab47 सर्वाग्रेक्षत्रियाजट्टादेवकल्पादृढ़व्रता|੧੫| Banned

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    @Tactical Frog so you're of the cucked variety, I see. No problem, send your share of French women to Vil. Langeri, Mahilpur Tehsil, District Hoshiarpur, Punjab, Bharat Varsh.

    Look there's no discussing with you/us, you can kiss our feet or lose your head.

    Jai Hind
     

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