Texas wants to secede?

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  1. Razor

    Razor CIDs from Tamilnadu Senior Member

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    White House may respond to Texas secession petition

    :hmm:

    Source: Yahoo News
     
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    What is the formal process for secession under the American constitution ?
     
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    Apollyon Führer Senior Member

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    First, you need to get the petition signed by some 25000 people :D

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions

    :crusin4:
     
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  5. W.G.Ewald

    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    Meaningless in terms of secession, the Constitution, and the law.
    FindLaw's Writ - Dorf: Does the Constitution Permit the Blue States to Secede?
     
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    LurkerBaba Staff Administrator

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    Eh? Why do I see loads of petitions for secession ?

    Is this supposed to be a Joke ? A reaction to Obama's re-election ?
     
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    Whitehouse website is simply awesome in terms of functionality. :thumb:
     
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    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    I don't know the answer to that, but I damn well know it's not by opening an account at whitehouse.gov and signing a petition.

    (At the reloading bench.)
     
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    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    Maybe so, but I'm not opening an account to wonder in awe, and neither is any real Secessionist.
     
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    i don't know why people from many states in the U.S. want to secede from U.S.A. itself:shocked:!i mean they have got everything that anybody can dream of and still they want to secede from a Superpower like U.S.A.(p.s.:-i know that the U.S. Federal Govt. won't accept their seccession under any circumstances but still its strange to see a large population wnats to secede from the U.S.):confused:
     
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    W.H. Petition Calls for Stripping Citizenship and Exile for Anyone Who Signs Petition to Secede | The Weekly Standard
    And where do you deport a citizen who has been stripped of citizenship?

    Four years ago they told us Obama was to be the Ureat Uniter. :)
     
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    Apparently they do take petitions seriously when they cross the 25,000 threshold.

    Here are some petitions which were followed up by the White House https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/responses
     
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    When USA ended the slavery, it sent the free negroes for Liberia, Africa.

    Send the secessionists for there too.
     
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    Rage DFI TEAM Stars and Ambassadors

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    Secession is one thing, but secession by mutual agreement is quite another. And we all know where that leads :becky: I wonder if anyone knows the Constitutional position on the issue, apart from the legal precedent. My understanding, purely based on Jeffersonian principles, is that it would tend to favor the states' right to unilateral secession- and if that is indeed true, what are the number games like.

    AFAIK, state Supreme Court verdicts have been pretty chequered on the issue of state secession from the Union. Alaska, in 2006 declared that secession was illegal when a private citizen proposed a statewide ballot on whether Alaska should seceede from the Union, while Georgia, in 2009 declared that it could secede from the Union- and that in fact the Government of the Union would cease to exist- if the latter overruled state annulment of federal laws on things like firearms and ammunition- LoL!

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    Texas was stolen from mexico in the first place, it rightly belongs to mexico.
     
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    spikey360 Crusader Senior Member

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    In a hypothetical scenario, where Texas indeed secedes from USA, I wonder what would be our foreign policy with such a sovereign state.
    And for all practical purposes, don't think America can afford to lose so many rednecks, they're the ones who impart a certain flavour to the American image.
     
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    India has not recognized secessionist Kosovo, therefore, India will not recognize Texas, until the US Federal Government recognizes it.

    The problem lies with the Civil War, where the states lost a lot of their rights. It wasn't all about slavery. The only way the US can survive is by going back to the US Constitution.
     
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    May be a bit off topic: :D



    Btw, the "Bait shop guy" is a recording of a prank call victim's voice who was earlier pranked using an Arnie soundboard. :lol:
     
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  20. Razor

    Razor CIDs from Tamilnadu Senior Member

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    If I m not mistaken I think the US constitution is pretty much silent on secession, neither denying nor granting the right of to secede.
     
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    Last time there was such an attempt, it ended up in a civil war. Chances of a civil war are less, but then with the economy going downhill, I'd keep my fingers crossed.
     

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