Silicon Valley Panic: China Demands NSA-Like Access and Control

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  1. sorcerer

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    Silicon Valley Panic: China Demands NSA-Like Access and Control

    Silicon Valley is in a panic following an announcement that China is considering sweeping counterterrorism legislation. The law would require tech companies to provide the Chinese government with NSA-like access to private data, terms the industry may be forced to accept if they want to do business in the world’s most populated country.


    The Edward Snowden revelations about the American spying apparatus have numerous impacts. One of the latest is a decision by the Chinese government to terminate contracts with a number of major US-based technology brands. This could stem from news that the NSA installed spyware into the products of major US technology companies, thus using these brands as tools of US intelligence agencies.

    But another recent side-effect of the Snowden documents could be a proposed Chinese counterterrorism law. While China seeks to shield itself from digital spying, the new law could give its own government even stronger capabilities in cyber surveillance.

    The law’s current draft would require foreign tech firms to give the Chinese government “backdoor” security access, and to provide encryption keys. The law would also require companies to house servers within Chinese borders, giving law enforcement access to user data.

    “It’s the equivalent of the Patriot Act on really, really strong steroids,” an anonymous US industry source told Reuters.

    No matter the extent of the legislation, given the prevalence of the emerging Asian market. If tech companies want to be able to compete on global scale, they can’t ignore Chinese consumers.

    “It’s a disaster for anyone doing business in China,” an industry source told Reuters. “You are no longer allowed a VPN that’s secure, you are no longer able to transmit financials securely, or to have any corporate secrets. By law, nothing is secure.”

    US officials say that the Obama administration has already expressed its concerns with the law. They say that it places unfair burdens on foreign companies, but Beijing is expected to approve the legislation in the coming months.

    “The Administration is aggressively working to have China walk back from these troubling regulations,” US Trade Representative Michael Froman said in a statement released on Thursday.

    As part of their appeal, the US argues that such stringent cybersecurity policies could also have negative consequences on the Chinese economy.

    “One unfortunate consequence of over-broad anti-terrorism policies is to potentially isolate China technologically from the rest of the world,” James Zimmerman, Chairman of the American Chamber of Commerce in China, told Reuters. “And the end result of that may be to limit the country’s access to cutting-edge technology and innovation.”

    Western nations, of course, have done their own share of meddling in the privacy policies of tech companies. Both the United States and Britain have encouraged Silicon Valley to provide encryption keys. Just last month, Prime Minister David Cameron and President Obama encouraged tech companies to provide intel in real-time in the name of national security.

    “We need to work with these big companies,” Cameron told the BBC, “to make sure that we can keep people safe.”

    This call was made soon after the terrorist attacks on Charlie Hebdo in Paris. China faces similar threats from religious extremists. Over the past two years, hundreds have died in the Xinjiang region, which the government blames on Islamist separatists.

    And again, it may very well be the example set by the NSA which has encouraged China to adopt its own form of Big Brother.




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  3. Kay

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    Dangerous territory - for all.
     
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    big brother is watching u!

    commercially speaking cyber security is a sharp justification to block foreign compettion ~ for that reason Huawei has been shut out of the American market. now Cisco, IBM and the likes r facing the music.

    Karma is a bitch.

    ~Happy Ram Year! Tapa talks when the ram rocks~
     
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    Remember back in 2003, when you started banning Huawei on national security grounds? Now China's bigger than you. Blowback's a bitch, ain't it?
     
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    Remember when China refused to sell rare earth metals to Japan. Japanese companies and research institution were forced to look for alternative source's for the same. It backfired on capital looters of China(CLC). We will find other markets and countries to manufacture without being forced to give up proprietary properties to the thugs of China (PLA/CCP).
     
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    Scale and unity. You can replace rare earths but you can't replace a market that's bigger than America. Plus, the global community of tech companies is much less united than "Japan Inc."

    There is no we. There is only the first to say "yes" and the last.
     
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    No US company is going to go bankrupt without the Chinese market. sure it will hurt but they can survive.

    Plus if China wants to get tough with the US, who do they think is buying all the stuff their factories make.
    Most US companies use China for low-cost msnufacturing and export the products.
     
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    Then it is good for them. Since Chinese companies were kicked out of US market couple of years ago and still managed to survive, I have not doubt that US companies can do the same.

    Anyone who is buying these goods, such as Americans and Indians.

    Yes, the only reason they are using China for low-cost manufacturing is that they can make big money from it.
    But the current situation is: they are still making money while Chinese wants them to close and shift to south east Asia.
     
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    ~Happy Ram Year! Tapa talks when the ram rocks~ ??????

    what does Ram means ??????

    On topic if this companies can`t do with chinese laws then they must get out -off china .. Why whine

    But does your onepluone too comes with same inbulid spareware and all ......
     
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  12. amoy

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    spyware inbuilt? well just don't buy anything that u're not sure abt ~-~ so much advice I can give u.

    states, corporations… r snooping on innocent citizens like u!


    ~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~
     
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    that is simply stone on their own feet.

    remember the high profile drama choreographed by Google when it claimed to pull out of China because it has to live by its motto "dont be evil". now it turns out that Google has been spying for American government, along with other IT giants such as Microsoft, IBM, Cisco, etc. what a joke!

    good job by CCP to ban them all if we have developed Chinese substitutes.

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